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A How-To on enjoying '18 Year Old Virgin'


***some possible slight spoilers below***


(and no it has nothing to due with being high or drunk or regressing back to your pubescent or prepubescent inner child to enjoy this movie)

1) Do NOT view this movie as a spoof. It's not a spoof of "40 Year Old Virgin", "American Pie", or any of a dozen teen sex comedies where the guy is running around trying madly and inanely to lose his virginity for <<insert plot reason, however lame, here>>. If you think it's a spoof, you'll be horribly disappointed, although it does contain some elements of the afore-mentioned movies I mentioned.

2) Do NOT view this movie as a substitute for porno (if you're into such a thing). If you think it's a porno, you'll be horribly disappointed, although it does contain some elements of porno, including LOTS of T & A, both male and female frontal nudity, simulated male and female masturbation situations, as well as sexual positions and situations, hetero and homosexual alike, as well as simulation of fellatio (don't remember simulated cunnilingus though).

3) Do NOT view this movie as a full-throttle laugh a minute comedy, although I believe it tried to be. If you think it's a full-throttle laugh a minute comedy, you'll be horribly disappointed, as there were too many jokes that misfired and/or were lamer than lame. In fact, during the first 30-35 minutes of this movie, I felt the attempted humor was SO lame that the Director and/or Writer would've been better served to simply ask the vast cast of young (and young looking) actors and actresses to merely tell them a funny sexy raunchy joke, and just mash the best of 'em together.

***Then a strange and wonderful thing happened. At about the 35-38 minute mark, I actually audibly laughed at a joke. It was a wonderful turning point. And then I found myself laughing at a couple more. Then I found a couple of the humor situations VERY similar to American Pie (the first one - the good one). Then I found myself audibly laughing a couple more times.

***Then I even found one sick joke that even sickened me (something I thought was near impossible to do). Later that joke's sickness was a bit mitigated, but...

***Then I remembered that even in GOOD comedies like American Pie (the first one - the good one), 40 Year Old Virgin, and Superbad, they had some jokes that fell flat and/or short of the mark, too (admittedly not as many though). Heck, some of the American Pie sequels (won't mention which ones) were actually lamer than this movie in toto.

4) Do view this as a comedic drama, much like the ABC Afterschool Specials of yore that I used to watch as a pubescent or prepubescent youth. Just the dirtiest most raunchy Afterschool Special that you can imagine.

5) Do view this as a movie with a message (yes it's there), much like the ABC Afterschool Specials of yore. The message isn't necessarily rocket science or horribly deep, but neither were many of the Afterschool Specials' messages, either.

6) Do view this movie as educational. Believe it or not (and I'm a 44 Year Old Non-Virgin ;-) ) I learned a new sexual position! Thus saving me from having to read the Kama Sinatra, or whatever it's called - lol. I'm eager to try it out, I just need to find a female partner my age that's limber enough to assume said position. ;-)

And finally...

7) Try to find in this movie an actor or actress of the opposite sex (or same sex if you're homosexual) that reminds you of someone you know, or used to know. It makes it quite a bit more interesting. The Rose character (Lauren Walsh) reminded me of a younger version of a someone I know. In some actions, but mostly her looks and especially expressions at times. This certainly helped the hour and a half go by pleasantly for me. ;-)

Thanks for reading and now go ahead and enjoy the movie!

(for what it's worth, I rated it a 5 ;-) )

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smoke some weed or get drunk, that's the only way



When there's no more room in hell, The dead will walk the earth...

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Funny you mentioned that in #7. One actress in there, as I posted in a new thread, I actually DO know in real life as I stumbled across this movie by accident and just noticed her. I went to school with her at a Christian academy.

Weirded me out.

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"(and no it has nothing to due with being high or drunk or regressing back to your pubescent or prepubescent inner child to enjoy this movie)"

"4) Do view this as a comedic drama, much like the ABC Afterschool Specials of yore that I used to watch as a pubescent or prepubescent youth. Just the dirtiest most raunchy Afterschool Special that you can imagine."


uh...?

"Do NOT view this movie as a spoof. It's not a spoof of "40 Year Old Virgin", "American Pie", or any of a dozen teen sex comedies where the guy is running around trying madly and inanely to lose his virginity for <<insert plot reason, however lame, here>>."

in a movie about a girl who is running around trying madely and inanely to lose her virginity for <<insert plot reason, however lame, here>> (in this case, so she can be with a guy who doesnt like virgins? does it get any lamer than this?)


i understand there will be people who liked the movie, but please try continuity in your post and try to understand the idea behind the movie before speaking.

it is, by the way, a combination of american pie, cant hardly wait, 10 things i hate about you and a few other movies, but without class, humour or plot. admittedly i laughed once, it was during the scene with the sex guru.

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i understand there will be people who liked the movie, but please try continuity in your post and try to understand the idea behind the movie before speaking.


Actually there was plenty of "continuity" in my post, Mr. Organised Chaos.

If you liked or disliked it, that's your prerogative.

As for what movies it's a "combination of", the fact that it may have been influenced by some/most of those movies don't necessarily make it a "spoof".

Watch true spoofs like "Scary Movie", et. al. (admittedly some spoof movies weren't good like "Disaster Movie" but).

If the movie was supposed to be a "spoof", it failed. If you don't like that I likened it to an ultra-dirty afterschool special, sorry but that's the way I saw it.

Has nothing to do with continuity or not.

No harm nor foul...

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considering you claim you dont need to regress to a pubescent or prepubescent state to enjoy the movie, then claim the following:

"4) Do view this as a comedic drama, much like the ABC Afterschool Specials of yore that I used to watch as a pubescent or prepubescent youth. Just the dirtiest most raunchy Afterschool Special that you can imagine."

in which you would be doing exactly that. this is the continuity i was referring to.

its not a "spoof" in the literal term, but im sure you realise what the meaning is behind such claims.

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Ah, because I said I used to watch ABC Afterschool Specials as a pubescent or prepubescent youth, you think I'm implying (or more aptly you're inferring) that you'd need to regress to a pubescent or prepubescent state to enjoy the movie? Something I specifically stated you wouldn't need to do? ;-)

That's not what I said, organised chaos, nor what I implied, nor what you should've inferred. I just repeated those big words (pubescent and prepubescent) to anchor when I saw said ABC Afterschool Specials.

Especially before the 35 min mark when it actually started getting a bit funny. The jokes in the beginning were very muted and not very funny. Much like that of the afterschool specials.

Plus the overall meaning/moral to the movie was similar to those in afterschool specials. So I dare say my original post stands.

At any rate, because you didn't understand me (although I made perfect sense, lol), why should I understand you? It's not a spoof, but obviously was influenced by some of those other movies.

Not a spoof. Onward,

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as we dont have any such thing in my country, im assuming that these afterschool specials are something children would watch. correct? if this is so, then its not something an adult would watch, and so to enjoy them you would need to be a pubescent or prepubescent youth now wouldnt you? so now using simple logic we can deduce that if you have to be within these 2 categories to enjoy these programmes, and the movie is the equivalent of that, as you yourself stated, then would you not have to be in or revert to one of those two categories? this is why you have poor continuity.
if these afterschool specials are something else then please let me know as i have not had any experience with them and am obviously having to base this on the limited information i can find within your post.

ok fine, not a spoof, a cheap cheesy crap movie based on the premise of other teenage comedies of the 90's, executed unsuccessfully. happy now?

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as we dont have any such thing in my country, im assuming that these afterschool specials are something children would watch. correct? if this is so, then its not something an adult would watch, and so to enjoy them you would need to be a pubescent or prepubescent youth now wouldnt you? so now using simple logic we can deduce that if you have to be within these 2 categories to enjoy these programmes, and the movie is the equivalent of that, as you yourself stated, then would you not have to be in or revert to one of those two categories? this is why you have poor continuity.


Don't agree with your premise, your simple logic is flawed, and I really would prefer you to continue with your flawed logic. It's more fun that way. ;-)

Let's break it down like this. Did you enjoy the movie? My guess is not based upon what you've said.

Anyway, re-read my first post and actually follow what I've suggested, and you'll probably enjoy it well enough.

That was the PURPOSE of my post.

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this movie cannot be enjoyed. that's it. there is nothing to explain.

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I wouldnt classify Disaster Movie as a "true spoof" at all. Plucking arbitrary scenes from any given movie and slapping them together is not a spoof. I'll give you Scary Movie, although to be fair, it was actually a spoof of a spoof (Scream).

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Or watch one of the thousands of great movies out there that aren't crap.

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Even if you hate Uwe Boll, give Postal a try, be offended or entertained.

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I felt bad. I was JUST like Ryan. I dated a virgin, had sex with her, all that fun stuff. Then she went psycho, and now I don't want anything more with virgins!! Fear not though. I am absolutely not gay.

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when youre denying being gay and nobody has even accused you youve really got to wonder...haha

by the way, dont be such a holier than thou biggot :P

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I don't think your list of advice is very helpful...best advice you could've given is: SIMPLY DON'T WATCH THIS! I can't stress this enough...DON'T!!!! watch this!

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Hi nasta. Actually there's plenty of other threads that say JUST that very thing, don't watch this, in some form or another.

Actually in the first 30 minutes or so, it looked like a horribly low budget very poor comedy with very low quality unfunny jokes.

But as I HATE not finishing watching movies (it's right up there with breaking Religious statues - a total no-no, lol), I truly found a way to "relatively" enjoy this movie (as well as this thread - I'm having more fun with this thread than any other on IMDb, that's for damn sure, lol).

Anyway, I hate telling others what to watch and what to not watch. If I see a true stinker of a movie, I might share with them my low rating of the movie, and be done with it.

Peace out,

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Like, oh-em-gee! I am like..... SOOOOOOO not gay! Golly gees! Like, ya!

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well with a straight edge comment like that how could i have suspected! i feel so stupid now.
ive tried different ways of typing this message, but it always comes off as sounding like me thinking ur gay, not getting your sarcasm and speaking sarcastically myself. curse this non emotive text language.

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It's alright, my gay friend. I can take a joke, lol. I assume you can too, so I'll just click the nice little "Post Reply" button and assume you'll get the joke, haha.

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I realize this thread is well over a year old, but it has to be said... you are way too far up your own ass to breathe properly. Get it sorted.

Don't be such a condescending wanker on the internet, nobody is keeping score.

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it seems we cant all be as bright as the person i was speaking to. nevermind kiddo youll get there, one day at a time. congratulations on making it this far, yes this is the "internet" very good. however this is a place for grown ups, you might wanna try somewhere a little more your level. hang on, i might be able to help you out there
http://www.sesamestreet.org/
there ya go little buddy. knock yaself out. remember now, thats not literal, much like a lot of things youll read and not understand, but its ok, youre wearing big boy pants now.

surely youre not stupid enough to not take the obvious message from the above comment :)

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I didn't even read it. You seem to think your smarmy internet trolling methods are somehow unique or intriguing.

You are a moron.

Honestly, the condescending "someday you'll be an adult like us" cut of your jib borders on parody. How original, to suggest that other anonymous internet denizens are children, that surely has never been suggested before. Your rapier-wit is far too magical to hide in the bowels of "18 Year Old Virgin" IMDB threads, you need to share it with the world immediately. LOL

The fact that you replied immediately to a post made 18 months after your previous correspondence says a lot to me too.

Get a life.

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only a tool would critique something they didnt read. enjoy the status, youve earnt it.
all im reading is that you think youre worthy of some sort of effort put in, despite your own comments reading as nothing more than a flimsy bitchfest. sorry to disappoint you there, i really couldnt care less, the only point i wanted to make was that i have no intention of following your idiotic demands, and that your opinion - as now - means less to me than...well...anything really.
i find it amusing that responding within 8 hours to you signifies a lack of "life". as though after checking my emails and finding your nonsense there, a "normal" person would wait 72 hours before replying, as to not show they may not have a social life to some random internet twat.

meh, goodbye. youre not worth the effort anymore.

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You get notifications in your email alerting you to replies on your IMDB posts?

LMAO

Need I say more?

This must be the only kind of social interaction you get, the hard life of an internet troll. Poor feller. You can be just like the cast of this movie and lose your virginity someday as well.

I know you're "not bothering with me", because I'm "not worth the effort", but I'm sure you can't resist replaying to this.

Talk soon you daft muppet. ;)

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heh heh heh... Kama Sinatra.... As a Sinatra fan, I think that's *beep* brilliant. Unfortunately, this *beep* movie wasn't.

Make It One For My Baby... - Frank SINatra

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Well I'm glad "somebody" liked my post. Hear that, organised_chaos? grumble-grumble

Actually I'm in a great mood this morning, and this post, ricodigiorgio, made me smile.

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In all honesty, I tried to enjoy 18 year old virgin. I watched it online thinking it'd be a chick version of American Pie, Superbad and so forth. The first thing I noticed was the fact it looked like it was filmed with a cell phone. It looked fake. The actors were stiff and wooden, but the women were hot. It just got too chaotic. Too much was happening at once and the scenes were totally obvious. However, I salute the actors and writers and director on trying. Making movies is hard, and getting them released is even harder. So, the fact that they had it released and people are discussing it online makes it in some way a success. However, I will never watch it again.


PS: Kama Sinatra. That cracks me up. I'm going to practice it on my girlfriend. Not the joke...

Make It One For My Baby... - Frank SINatra

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nice.

Make It One For My Baby... - Frank SINatra

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Man!! you really seem to be having a lot of time!! thanx for the info though :D

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Thanks,jabberttp. I found myself with a couple hours I didn't mind wasting, so I took your advice not to expect too much and to consider this movie as I would a vaguely amusing and extremely dirty after school special. I have to say that I very nearly enjoyed it (the T & A did help). Thanks again for the advice.

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Cheers, FINALLY someone who appreciated my advice. You're more than welcome. ;-)

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this movie was junk. i tried to like it but i didn't. I like comedies and I really thought this would get a couple of laughs out of me, but not even a smile. And I laughed at some pretty stupid movies in my life but this, nothing. To bad, i really enjoyed teenage funny movies. I think even The hottie and the Nottie was a better movie than this and that says a lot.

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