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Does a feminist wear heels? Don't know? That's the point


I hate the word "feminist" because it means too many different things to different people.

Most women are egalitarians - and believe women should have the same rights that men have. Most men believe this as well. But that's where things get tricky

Does a feminist wear heels? Some would say "yes" because it celebrates the feminine form of a woman. Others would say "no" because women should not have to wear something uncomfortable simply to looks good. In reality, none of these have anythin to do with equality

You see a commercial for a woman boxing and people talk about that as feminism. In truth, most women don't want their kids of any gender to get into boxing, and wouldn't promote this as progress

I've seen cities where "feminism" is an attempt to create an all female gym for lesbians (San Francisco tried this). I've seen where feminism is about encouraging women to make money as strippers and ones where feminism was to ban strip clubs

Is Beyoncé a feminist? Does putting on lingerie and singing while shaking your body for money make you a feminist or the opposite? Their are completey opposite viewpoints on this

Some women have the view that a woman has a special role in caring for the home and not having to make hard decisions and thus should support the husbands decisions. Others in the bdsm community believe in female-led households where the man is basically her slave.

In short, it simply doesn't make sense to call all of these different viewpoints "feminism."

Recent polls show Clinton only leading trump by 13 points along female voters - not that much different than the split between Obama and Romney. Are these women who don't vote for Clinton not feminists?

I wish more men and women who believe in equality would start calling themselves egalitarians instead of feminists, so we would have an idea of exactly where they are coming from.





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the problem with the word feminism for many people is that it includes the prefix "fem". they assume because of that that feminism is a only female movement. and assume further that feminists wants to be superior to men. but this is not the case. originally it was called feminism because the female part was oppressed by male. and they simply wanted that female people have the same rights as the male ones. with calling it feminism they wanted to shift attention to women - that they exist, that they can think, make decisions on their own that they are important too. so you see, choosing the word feminism is a historical thing.
also the "female" characteristics are often called bad and are unwanted. people use to say "you are a pussy" like having a vagina was a bad thing. or they say "you cry like a girl" to make a boy feel bad for his emotions. they basically say being a female means you are weak, and if you have this "female characteristics" you are a bad person. with the word feminism they(and me) want to show that this allegedly bad female traits are not a bad thing.

as with every movement feminism faces problems. such as dumb people or people woh hate men jumping on the train. and as in any normal situation the loudest people are mostly the dumbest.
as you said feminism is about equality. they fight for having the right to decide. no feminist will say that a woman should do the household. a feminist rather says if you want this than do it but you can also choose a career instead if this better suits you.
also the whole dressing issue - beyonce fights for the right for a girl to dress how she wants to dress. showing your legs doesn't make u a slut. this is not anti-feminism. a male doesn't hide his body either, why should a girl do so? females were for a vary long time oppressed with how do they have to dress. not allowed to reveal to much in the believe that the female body is sinful. so beyonce is actually showing it's alright - it's just a human body after all. and just because it looks different this don't mean it's something you have to hide. but on the other side she does not promote that you have to dress like that to be a feminist. she states: it's your body - dress like you want - no one other than you has the right to say how to dress correctly.

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Beyonce...the same one who led a campaign saying we should ban the word 'bossy' from the English language entirely...

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oh well, sry but she is a human after all. you never made a wrong decision in your lifetime? but she have her reasons. most of the time it's females who are called "bossy" for demanding the same respect as a male person would get.
making one stupid statement is not making her a bad role model.

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Of course I have, not the point; you can drop the whole sanctimonious garbage.. Some mistakes are much dumber than others.

You know what IS making her a bad role model? Protesting police and then surrounding herself with them for protection. Boy does THAT make sense.

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no this actaully makes her a real good role model. she does not generalize a group of people because some of them made horridly wrong decisions.

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she does not generalize a group of people because some of them made horridly wrong decisions.


Did you entirely miss what I said about police protests? lol holy **** what a moron..

You know what else makes her a great role model? Completely ignoring Cuba's abysmal human rights record and takin a little vacay there.

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obviously one person can't fight all the issues in the world!
and you seem to have a really great problems following the theme of this thread. OP asked about feminism, beyonce was just an example. but you are so obsessed about one person that you missed the complete point.
i'm just wondering why i even reply to such stupid answers? beyonces flaws weren't the topic.

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Beyonce is a BAD example. That was relevant and the whole point which went far over your head evidently.

But you're right. You and your girlfriends should just go Put A 💍 On It

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Tss she needs a pecker in that giant butt tss

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Would she prefer if they called her an 'ásshole' or 'díckhead' instead?

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so please enlighten me about your thoughts? since when a tolerant and open minded person is an *beep* or dickhead?
and please explain how your contribution is a legit addition to this discussion? because what i see is a useless statement of an user who is just too lazy to think and to write his very few thoughts understandably. instead is just able to write childish phrases.

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UH OH! TRIGGER WARNING! MICROAGGRESSION DETECTED! ROLL OUT THE SJW MOBILE! 🚔

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I'd personally prefer if someone called me 'bossy' over those two other names instead. 'Bossy' is nowhere as bad as the other ones despite that feminists and SJWs make a big deal. Well, they make a big deal of everything.

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Tss she can wear whatevs as long as dinner isn't late tss FAWHKIN HOME RUN CHIPPERSON!

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