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Honest review from someone who watched it without taking sides before


I am someone who enjoys watching movies. I've seen probably over 2000 films and shows and have over 1200 rated on IMDb. I've seen the original Ghostbusters and think they are hilarious and a good movie. However, I was never *that* much attached to it to be horrified by the idea of a remake. In general, I don't mind remakes, unless they are insulting the original or are just a bad movie by themselves. For instance, American remake or Martyrs was *beep* I've read some good reviews and some bad ones, entering this watching unbiased and without desire to see it be good or to suck.

The storyline resembles the first one a lot, except it feels somehow incomplete without the love story and Zuul. I understand the critique someone gave that it feels too much like it's setting-up the sequel instead of giving it's A-game in the first one. Actually, the whole first half'n hour were not as funny as I hoped. I mean, there were some good jokes now and then ('This worthless trash belongs to this institution'), but there was also some Sandler-level toilet humor between McCarthy and MacKinnon.

The first problem I saw was the casting of Wiig and McCarthy in this particular roles. Don't get me wrong, both are good comedians and can be funny, but somehow McCarthy being loud-mouthed Abby, while Wiig being the stuck-up protagonist Erin was very obvious casting. You know, been there-done that. I know some actors spend whole of their careers doing one thing and it can be funny, but sometimes you need to be surprised and shocked when watching a comedy. I was not surprised at all by Wiig and McCarthy. I think it would be much more funny if Wiig played Abby and McCarthy played Erin: That way both would surprise us in roles that were not something we already saw them in. This way, they were both good, but too safe to be outstanding.

Now, Kate McKinnon as Holtzman was a mixed bag... She had her moments of being really funny ('Great impersonation of an inflating balloon'), but there were times when she was just cringy and off. I get people's complains about her being obnoxious, although I can see she had fun with playing her.

Two outstands IMO are definitely Leslie Jones and Chris Hemsworth. Once they entered the film, it got a whole lot funnier. Jones was better used here than Ernie Hudson was in the first one, often being the highlight of the show. She had several good jokes and some personality. I hear complaints about her being a stereotype, but I think some funny archetypes are good for comedy. Besides being loud, she also shown some genuine knowledge of the city's architecture and history that was very much needed to get stuff done. Now I want to see more of Jones' work, because her comedic timing is great.

Chris Hemsworth was also hilarious, delivering several good jokes (Glasses taken out, speaking gibberish on the phone to appear smart, ect.). As a man, I wasn't insulted by his character. I never got an impression that Kevin was supposed to be representing all men. Other men in the film weren't as dumb. I think Kevin was a male twist on a classic dumb blonde character from the 60s/70s. Actually, he reminded me a lot of Mary Goodnight, Bond girl from Man with the Golden Gun. She was like him: nice, stupid as a ton of bricks and very attractive.

As for film being sexist; well-not really IMO. I am a guy who sometimes gets insulted by the modern representation of men being often cheaters and chauvinists and getting assaulted much harder than any woman would in the same comedy. But honestly, 2014's The Other Woman and several other films had that trope a lot, and I mean A LOT stronger than Ghostbusters. I don't think all men were dumb or evil. Dean of college (btw, awesome to see Charles Dance) wasn't evil, he only did what any respected scientist would do when seeing an underling embarrassing the institution that way. The museum curator and tour guide weren't bad or dumb. Neither was the mayor, who actually kind of helped them.

As for the villain - well, he is *a villain*, so it's expected for him to be kind of a douche. Actually a nice parallel with main heroines, since they were all looked down upon in life. What separated them was their decisions; GB decided to help the world who mistrusted them, while he decided to destroy it. Many stories have some parallels between their heroes and villains and it usually works.

The effects were good. Not mindblowingly awesome, next to BvS and Captain America, but still decent. I liked the design of the ghosts too. Female Slimer wasn't needed, though. Cameos were great, although I wish if they were playing their old characters and passed the mantle, so to speak. Also, the ending credits were actually innovative and held my attention through the end.

Overall, it was funny. Not great, but more good than not. Probably something I will watch again. Maybe before bedtime to hear in the background and get amused. It's not as good as the first, but I wasn't expecting it to be, to be honest. It isn't even Fieg's best film. But it is, more or less, a harmless fun flick; with cca 65% of humor hitting the target, and other 35% just leaving me indifferent, but not insulted. It was probably dragged down by the whole 'Feminist vs chauvinist' saga and filmmaker's poor attitude on trailer reception backfired. Still, the ending product is quite okay and if there is ever a sequel (doubtful, but who knows), I will watch it.

My honest opinion is 7/10 - Okay/nice movie. If you disagree, it is your right to do so and moreover, I would be delighted to hear a different opinion with constructive criticism. I am not pandering to anyone, I couldn't care less about the whole 'vs' thing going on this board. This is just my personal opinion, but it is 100% honest.

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DVDs... DVDs.. Blu-Rays... Blu-Rays...

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You don't need to rate 1200 (btw stating that number is supposed to give you some respect-my-words cinema critic position or something like that?) movies here to know that Chris Hemsworth was anything but hilarious. Annie Potts' role was way better.

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stating that number is supposed to give you some respect-my-words cinema critic position or something like that?


I did emphasize how this is my opinion only and that anyone is allowed to disagree. I gave a number of films I've rated just to indicate I've seen enough films to know what I like and more importantly, why I like it. To support the fact I am not a troll and this opinion is something I genuinely believe, not something I've said to pander or troll. If you read my whole review, you will see I was anything but preachy. Actually, many posters here claim their opinion is a fact, while I never said mine was.


Chris Hemsworth was anything but hilarious. Annie Potts' role was way better.


One doesn't exclude the other. Besides being the secretary, they were barely playing the same character. Janine was a smart and capable woman, while Kevin is a dumb airhead. I enjoyed both performances in a different way.

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Just a reminder - you can make a fair judgment of a movie while having "taken a side" beforehand.

I really disliked the movie, but I gave it the benefit of the doubt and rated it as if it were a stand-alone movie and without taking the misandrist advertising into account - even after all that, it's still a boring lifeless movie that barely goes beyond the bare skeleton of what a Ghostbusters movie should be.

In the end, it's a pretty middle-of-the-line movie, but leans more towards being below-average than it does above, so I gave it a 4/10
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I've seen probably over 2000 films and shows and have over 1200 rated on IMDb.

That doesn't mean anything. Anyone here, on Amazon, eBay, Netflix, Steam, etc can post a review/score of the stuff they've seen, played or heard.

For comparison's sake, a guy could brag about how big his dick is and no one would care. In fact, they'd make fun of him.

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Funny how after roughly 2 pages of review, this is the think 2 comments cling to. Read what I've said to the other person.

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The effects were good.

Did we watch the same movie?!? The effects here were on par with Asylum Mockbusters and their budgets cap out at a couple million.

These were CG effects done so poorly that even though several of them began as live action effects they still turned out looking like bad CGI.

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hey, i really enjoyed your review. mainly because you take the time to really consider it and what is maybe even more important to justify your opinion.

i for myself didn't miss a love story. i often have the feeling that in comedy-action movies love stories are some kind forced in, if you know what i mean. they are sometimes not really developed and suddenly two protagonists are in a relationship and it feels like - what? how did this happened? and i think in this case it would have felt the same way.

to the casting decision i can't say anything. i didn't know any of the actress, except Mccarthy. but i enjoyed the performance of all of them.

for me Holtzman was in high spirits. she was obviously the representation of the mad scientist and i had no problem with this. her performance reminded me a lot of Christopher Lloyd as Dr. Emmet Brown (Back to the future). and i can't recall someone stated serious critique about his character.

Jones was stereotyped. but she also knew a lot of stuff. she wasn't just "this black woman who always complain and freak out". she helped the GB with her (really large) knowledge about NYC, and even though she wasn't a scientist she earned her way in. (God damn - i don't know so much about my own home town). and yes she had a lot of character. even though she was genuinely scared most of the time, and who can blame her, she didn't run away.

I don't think this movie was sexist either. kevin was dump, and so what? i don't see a problem in having one dumb character in a movie. and as you said the old collage guy just did what he thought is the best for his institution. the mayor himself was a more conflicting role in my eyes. when the GB are called to his bureau his secretary is forming a female body form while saying they draw too much attention to themselves. this let him(and her) appear sexist and implies he wouldn't have a problem with male GB. but on the other hand to state that what happened was real would cause panic. but after all he is just a human. he makes some mistakes and also makes some good decisions.

your villain argument is on top. nothing left to say here.
the cgi was good, but as you said not mind blowing. for my taste they were too colorful.

before i continue i should say: yes, i am a feminist *gasp* but no i'm not a man hater *even louder gasp*. and before you post your hate, what i think will happen. Feminism is about equal rights for both Gender, it always was. it is not to make man bad or woman superior. and the fact that i am a person who wants to be treated like the other half of the human population may make me take up a side.
as a female it can be annoying that the boy is always saving the girl. it can be annoying that the female characters are rarely presented as crazy or loud. it can be annoying that in a lot of movies the female hero is supported by a guy because she is too weak to make it on her own.
and this is why i really enjoyed the movie. it was about 4 women who are not perfect. and they really wasn't portrayed as such. (and it's not the task of a comedy to present the roles as super complex individuals. there are really just a little number of such comedies which manage to do both. and well the original ghostbusters hadn't a lot of character development either) and the girls made it on their own. this sends a powerful message to young girls.

This doesn't mean that you HAVE to like this film. but what i read on this message board was most of the time BS. BS because only a low percentage of people who write something in here argue why they didn't like it. it's BS because every female person who wrote something positive on this bored was called as a fat chick and this must be the reason why her taste is so bad. being fat does not make a person stupid. to be stupid makes a person stupid. and this movie was by far not as sexist towards men as the most hollywood blockbusters towards women nowadays.
the original ghostbusters didn't reinvent the wheel, too. just like this one. but after all this is comedy. it is supposed to entertain and not to answer the big question about life.

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Thank you very much for replying and in such a detailed format. I appreciate your opinion and I am glad there is someone who is willing to discuss this film without being jumpy or insulting. Kudos for that too.

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Feminism is about equal rights for both Gender, it always was.


That is true. Many people believe feminism means female supremacy (because of the name), but the way this movement started in 1910s it only meant same voting, speech and other human rights for women. Today, it also means well-media media representation and that is good. As you say, young girls deserve to see some female characters that can handle the situation by themselves.

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Aren't women strong and independent? Are they so weak-willed and uninformed that they need to have Hollywood examples constantly shoved down their throats?

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I absolutely agree with just about everything you said. I watched it last night and posted pretty much the same thing as you except not as in in depth.. although I personally think 7/10 is just so slightly too high.. 7's and above for me have to be well above average films.. this film is a high 6/10 from me and everything else I agree with.

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Yeah, I saw it last night too and Whilst not up to the original (remakes hardly ever are) It's certainly not the disaster everyone with certain agendas seem to be making out. One of the better remakes due to the fact that it doesn't have to aim that high as the original was less a great film and more an exercise in marketing that those who grew up with the toys and such have more of an emotional resonance with maybe.
I'd go at about 6.5/10 for this one and about 7.5 for the original.

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That entire statement made me embarrassed for you.

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I'd be a lot more worried about posting hundreds upon hundreds on comments about a single film if I were you. Your posting history is utterly obsessive.
It's just a movie lad.

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Cry me a river  it could be hundreds of thousands of posts. The movie still failed, there won't be another, and it's fantastic.

Thanks for reading up on me though! I'll email you next week's assignment.

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I mostly agree, especially with your rating. It deserves a 7/10.

Not as good as the first 2 IMO, but a worthy addition to the franchise.


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