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Didn't hate it because it starred women, I hated it because it sucked.


I had no problem with the ghostbusters being female. I'm not one of those who think women can't be funny. The women in this film weren't funny but there were plenty of men in the film too, and they weren't funny either. Hell, 3 of the original ghostbusters were in it and they weren't funny! The problem was with the whole approach and the writing.

The ghostbusters themselves were annoying and eccentric. Look back at the original film and they're actually quite subdued. It's not the funniest film in the world, but when it is the humour comes naturally, it's not forced.

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I didn’t find it as bad as the whole backlash would suggest it is. But they definitely went about it in the wrong way.

Make a straight up sequel, with the old busters retired, and the ladies as the new blood. Have actual, written out, structured jokes, and not have most of it be improvised (that’s how it felt to me at least). And I’m sure the nostalgia goggles a lot of us have with something we grew up watching didn’t help much, either.

I think it wouldn’t have been any better with guys in the roles. The problem for me is Paul Feig. He made a Paul Feig movie, not a Ghostbusters movie. It doesn’t fit with the other two. The humor, the atmosphere, the characterization are totally different.

As a little girl I didn’t have any problem imagining myself as a Ghostbuster, or an Indiana Jones, or as a Han Solo. But it would’ve been nice to have more cool adventure type, female characters for me to relate to as well. So I think it’s good they’re casting more women in these big movies, but to turn it into your biggest selling point (over actual story and quality) is wrong in my opinion. I don’t want mediocre “But now with ladies…” movies. I want good movies, with interesting characters, some of whom happen to be female.

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I'd preferred it if they'd just left it alone. I think some films can be remade and some can't. Things like Ghostbusters and Back to the Future are examples. They have a certain magic to them. I dread the day they mess with Back to the Future.

You sum up exactly how female characters should be written, and I think we're getting there, especially in TV shows. And in Ghostbusters, they should have been characters first and funny second, which is what I felt the original film achieved. It might even have been beneficial to cast actors not known for comedy, but write them into funny situations.

And yeah, it did feel very improvised. It felt like they were going for that kind of oddball, random humor that you get in things like Anchorman, but they didn't really understand how that kind of comedy works.

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The secretary sucked--not up to Janine's par @ all.

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Oh man, just thinking about the possibility of remaking Back to the Future is making sick.

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Fear not. Robert Zemeckis has said he'll never let it happen.

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Exactly, he's seen how it usually turns out.

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Don't even go there

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I agree, most people hated it simply because it was a bad movie, not because it starred women. I think Kate McKinnon and Kristen Wiig are great and very funny but even they couldn't save such an awful movie.

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Agreed. It felt like a Charmed episode, but cheesier. It had some good ideas, but poor execution. Kristen Wiig was pretty good. The scripted parts, individually, were okay, but didn't work together as a whole. The parts that seemed clearly improvised felt like the awkward parts of SNL that don't work.

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I gave it a shot, and enjoyed my experience of watching it on the big screen, but ultimately it was forgettable; I couldn't tell you a single thing that happened. That's mediocre, which IMO is worse than being bad. I don't know why they couldn't just have an original idea about a team of ghost hunters. The large number of ghost shows on TV seem to be evidence that people would watch a new ghost hunting movie. It's just that the original is just too beloved to be remade.

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Hollywood at the moment is very much convinced that familiarity sells. There's already a built in audience for the Ghostbusters brand name. I don't mind a remake here and there but they've gone into overkill. I can only hope that with tv taking so many risks that films will have to follow suite if they want to survive.

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Hollywood still take risk, the problem is very few have been worth the reward. Hollywood has ALWAYS been about the numbers they pull.

And the numbers don't lie.

"familiarity sells" cause it has the numbers to prove it.

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Remakes and reboots can work like with Batman but apart from the heavy weight of the movie name there usually isn't a good reason to remake or reboot.

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I personally thought it was really funny and entertaining. I enjoyed it even more than the original Ghostbusters.

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I find that difficult to believe. The original Ghostbusters is widely regarded as a classic comedy. This version is universally acknowledged to be a steaming turd.

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Believe it or not, it is true. I liked this version better than the original.

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Some people think Surströmming is delicious, but they are in the vast minority worldwide.

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I hated it because nobody in the film was black.

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hahaha, yeeeeeah, because the original cast was such a shiny example of ultra-conservatives, right?

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The original cast was mixed & the lefty twat proposal is... misogyny. The same retards screaming misogyny have all shut the fook up since Wonder Woman & the new Alien film smashed it.

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yeah, i am sure that you appreciate misogyny quite a lot.

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hahahaha. triggered ya off yer fidget spinner, didn't it?

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fook mi?

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I didn't hate it because it sucked. I hated it because it was marketed like it's actually good, but it really was not.

I don't actually hate terrible movies like for example the Twilight saga, Fifty Shades of Grey or even Baywatch and CHiPs. They don't insist that they were seemed as bad movies because people are mysoginistic and anti-feminism. That was just an absurd claim.

When your movie sucked, well... suck it up! No need to pretend that it's a misunderstood masterpiece that was a victim of some kind of injustice.

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if they had explained what happened to the guys....like they retire and decide they need new trainees and realize that the local stem program has a whole crop of students wanting to do "anything"

And the secretary is competent vs being a dofus.


it would have worked

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Yeh I agree with OP, the problem was whole approach - writing and directing.

But I thought Kristen Wiig was funny, there were some funny moments for sure. Just not enough to lift this movie from the shithole it dug itself. I found it cheap and irritating, too over-cooked.

The original Ghostbusters was funny, but wasn't "wink wink nudge nudge" every 2 seconds. Back when writers knew how to make movies.

The Chris Hemsworth character, I mean... really? Was not needed. Perhaps they were aiming to please girls or something? cheap.

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it would have pleased me if Chris was competent. Look @ Janine in the original movie...she was good looking but she also had brains.

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It's a shame they made him so obviously stupid, like "slap-stick stupid". That just insults our intelligence, and I mean younger audiences too.

I don't think women need a sledge-hammer reminder that "hey women can be smart scientists too"... but that's what they did by contrasting their intellect with the introduction of a seriously dumb male character.

It could have been good with female ghostbusters, the writing let it down. 80's movie had a grit and realism that grounded the movie. This new one is too glossy and silly.

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The movie had so much potential to work with. They could have made good money easily.

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Thank you! The idiots involved in this film have NO IDEA that it had nothing to do with gender. It had to do with the fact that a.) they recycled the original script, b.) they did not add anything new to the story at all, and c.) all the jokes were old, recycled, and executed poorly by the women involved. That, and the entire cast was very unattractive.

The people in Hollywood really don't have a clue what appeals to audiences anymore. All they see is what THEY like in the bubble, not what's outside of it. Doesn't help that the Writer's Strike of '08 robbed them of a lot of creative talent, and it's really showing after 10 years.

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