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So I pulled support for the raid that killed Uday and Qusay...


...SF went in to take em out. We lost a few guys that day due to those sick F_ckers...and now they want to make a movie GLORIFYING him like Al Pacino in Scarface. They better give those men that died in that raid recognition at the end of this movie!


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Why did anyone thing Al Pacino was glorified in Scarface? It's the whole hip hop generation in the last 20 years that has misunderstood the film, and the message that Brian De Palma and Oliver Stone tried to tell with the film. Tony Montana was never glorified. The glorification just shows what's wrong with the generation of wannabe gangster that just understand a simple film as Scarface.

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Why did anyone thing Al Pacino was glorified in Scarface? It's the whole hip hop generation in the last 20 years that has misunderstood the film, and the message that Brian De Palma and Oliver Stone tried to tell with the film. Tony Montana was never glorified. The glorification just shows what's wrong with the generation of wannabe gangster that just understand a simple film as Scarface.

I don't know why, but 'yes' Scarface is glorified. Ask yourself, how many times have you heard someone say, "Say hello to my little friend!" or "take another qualude and she'll love me in the morning?" Jim Carrey even said it in one of his movies. There are Scarface posters people buy, a video game...trust me...IT'S GLORIFIED!

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I just get that scarface feeling from the trailer. Being rich and powerful, driving fast cars, sleeping with beautiful women, killing at will...all looks like it is glorified in this film. I guess people that have seen it can tell me differently. Still pisses me off this POS gets a movie!

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He understands it's glorified. His point was that people misunderstood what it was supposed to represent. Scarface wasn't supposed to be a cool guy, rather he was supposed to be a murderous villain who became a paranoid wreck and died in a blaze of gunfire.

So, he's right, every stupid gangster wannabe has misconstrued the point of that film and made it into some idealized lifestyle, which is not what Stone wanted to do.

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The film is literally called The DEVILS Double. The film isn't about Uday it is about his body double who is forced to work for him. From the very start Uday is shown as the bad guy. This glorifies Uday Hussein as much as Schindler's List does to Hitler.

Oh, one more thing... It's been emotional!

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The raid isn't in the movie -- in fact the war is barely visible.

I personally thought the movie sucked for all the usual reasons: sagging plot, lousy pacing, weak dialogue, and hapless acting. It was a big waste of a story that could have been a wild blockbuster on its own without being fictionalized to death. Maybe someday someone will try again.

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in fact the war is barely visible

The first Gulf War is.

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you shouldn't judge a film until you've seen it. as someone else pointed out just look at the title and actually think about what it means.

i'm just saying what someone else said but i'm guessing you're going to be too thick-headed to watch the movie so I'll spoil it for you anyway. Uday is seen as a piece of sh't through 100% percent of the movie. his body double who was FORCED into through violence & threats is shown to hate Uday's guts through 100% of the movie. he even tries to kill himself to escape the situation but more importantly deny Uday a body double.

Scarface has been out forever so I'm not sure how to convince you that movie isn't a celebration of bad people either. people quote evil all the time for all sorts of reasons and none of them necessarily from admiration. I think you're making this too personal and you can't be this blind

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...and now they want to make a movie GLORIFYING him like Al Pacino in Scarface.


Funny, I don't remember Tony Montana being a child molesting rapist...

Tony was given a slightly positive light in that we see the rise and fall of the man - coming from nothing to something in a classic rags to riches tale gone wrong.

Uday never has to "earn" his way. Uday is shown to be a narcisistic coward who rapes, kills, and bumbles his way through everything. This isn't exactly an inaccurate portrayle of him..

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I don't think that they "glorified" Uday. The premise of the movie was about how *beep* sick he was, and how he caused absolute turmoil in Iraq.

Step aside Butch

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Maybe you should watch a film before criticizing it? This movie doesn't glorify him at all. It makes him out as a sick homicidal psychotic pedophile, hardly what I would call "glorifying".

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