This is the only somewhat of a plot hole that I see. Why use the monsters if all they have to do is die in whatever order? I mean, Jules and Truman died at the hands of the Buckner's but Curt was killed when he hit the barrier when he tried to jump the chasm and they were content with shooting Marty in the tunnels. If it were that easy then Japan could have just gassed those schoolgirls and been done with it.
shareIf it were that easy then Japan could have just gassed those schoolgirls and been done with it.
Why use the monsters if all they have to do is die in whatever order?
I get the ritual. My question is, only 2 of the kids died at the hands of the chosen method. 1 died jumping his motorcycle into an invisible barrier and they were content with shooting the other. Those 2 deaths weren't keeping with the ritual. Also, they were also adamant in killing Marty before Dana but when they were explaining things to the security guy they said the only rule to killing was that the slut had to die first. To me it was just a bit of lazy writing/deus ex machina because they could have just shot both of them in the elevator. As for Japan, we don't know if there is a specific order. I believe it was mentioned that every region is different.
share1 died jumping his motorcycle into an invisible barrier
but when they were explaining things to the security guy they said the only rule to killing was that the slut had to die first.
To me it was just a bit of lazy writing/deus ex machina because they could have just shot both of them in the elevator.
As for Japan, we don't know if there is a specific order.
This brings up another question.sense they were all asians school girls in that one zone.. what archetype did they fit. I highly doubt there was a slut.
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They did mention it was different for every culture
sharewhat archetype did they fit.
We don't know if Kurt's sacrifice even worked, and we're most definitely not sure if shooting Marty would've prevented the apocalypse. The organization was just basically acting out of desperation and doing what they could.
shareThis is the only somewhat of a plot hole that I see. Why use the monsters if all they have to do is die in whatever order?The monsters need to be summoned due to how the ritual works. If you bypass it and just kill the kids outright, they'll throw a fit.
The pomp and spectacle is a necessary part of it in order to please the gods (remember when they needed to see titties?), it's just that all of that stuff had ALREADY been completed by the time our protagonists were in the underground facility, so at that point they could be killed by anyone and it would still fulfill the requirements.
When she was being attacked at the lake they thought everything was completed, so that proves the only thing left was the deaths, they had finished the spectacle aspect.
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Sitterson (or Hadley) alluded to the reason, and Dana hit the reason on the head in the end. It's not sufficient that they just die. The death, while necessary, isn't what's important, especially since there are just so many ways for them to die at the hand/paws/knives/sonic screwdrivers of the various monsters. What's important is that they suffer (Sitterson says this about the virgin, but it seems logical that it applies to all of them), and that they experience punishment. Curt didn't get a clean death -- he watched his girlfriend decapitated and spent the remainder of his life fleeing from one danger to the next. He suffered and was "punished". By the time he died, his role in the ritual was complete except for the technicality of his death. It didn't matter how his death unfolded at that point. Had he died before they raised the Buckners -- say, trying to jump the chasm for fun before the group even reached the cabin -- then his death wouldn't have worked...because he didn't suffer beforehand. It's all about the journey. (In a way, the method of his death was probably better than the people running the scenario could have hoped for. It dangled out the prospect of escape followed by lots of cops, soldiers and big guns coming to the rescue, and then dashed it as Curt collided with a very real wall separating them from any chance at freedom. Dana (almost) correctly deduces that there's no hope for them. They're doomed, or so it seems. Curt's death by, say, a good stabbin' wouldn't have had quite the impact or caused the same suffering.)
Marty and Dana went through equal amounts of suffering, pain, and "punishment." Putting a bullet through Marty's head was basically just turning out the light after enough horror had been inflicted. (And think about how horribly Dana would have suffered, knowing that she saved the world but only by murdering her friend. That's real torture there.) It's not about dying per se. If it was, they'd just wait til the kids got inside the cabin and dropped a blockbuster bomb on it. This is, after all, an analogy for horror movies. Nobody watches a horror movie just to see the characters die. They watch to see the process leading up to it.