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Confused about stuff

posted 8 years ago by panayiotis-character
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Couldn't find anyone mentioning them so here we go

1. We clearly see Dana getting killed on the screens while everyone parties. No Marty anywhere. We even see Dana vomiting blood. And then we see that something entirely different happened

2. Where does the blood comes from? Marty is not dead but "his" blood is used.

3. Why each country has a different ritual? (Yes I know the rituals are a metaphor for the horror genre so each country has different horror cliches but if you take the movie literately it doesn't make sense)

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

1) She was beaten up. Not killed. Everything did happen, but then Marty showed up.

2) It was symbolic blood. Nobody's actual blood was used.

3) It does make sense because the rituals are designed to appease the gods. The more rituals there are, the better chance of the gods being pleased with the sacrifices. I'd say they're different for cultural reasons.

You are sin.

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

1) She was beaten up. Not killed. Everything did happen, but then Marty showed up.

2) It was symbolic blood. Nobody's actual blood was used.

3) The rituals are designed to appease the gods. The more rituals there are, the better chance of the gods being pleased with the sacrifices. I'd say they're different for cultural reasons.

You are sin.

[–] panayiotis-character 8 years ago

1) She was beaten up. Not killed. Everything did happen, but then Marty showed up.

I'm sorry but when someone much stronger strangles you with a thick chain and you vomit blood, you are dead. Plain and simple. I thing it was intentional for a reason I don't understand

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

Except we clearly see she wasn't dead. People vomit blood in movies all the time without dying.

Heck, Marty was stabbed in the back with what appeared to be a sickle, and then dragged around, yet he still survived and even dismembered his attacker.

Yes, it was intentional. To lead the audience into believing Dana was dead and the movie was over.

You are sin.

[–] DrAndreiSmyslov 8 years ago

3. Why each country has a different ritual? (Yes I know the rituals are a metaphor for the horror genre so each country has different horror cliches but if you take the movie literately it doesn't make sense)

I'm not sure what you're meaning here.

As you state, various horror tropes are often associated specifically to certain regions. For example, the Ringu type girl - the long black hair hanging over a ghostly face is a horror trope of Japan. So naturally the Japan site would showcase the Ringu girl.

Are you saying it doesn't make sense because there would not be a real Ringu type girl in Japan? When you say "take the movie literally", are you meaning as in taking it as real world?

If so, then there would be very few horror tropes that would exist in real world regardless of what country they are associated to. There would be a few exceptions like serial killers, which exist in real world, but the overwhelming majority of horror character types worldwide would never exist in real world.

If that's not what you meant, if you could elaborate, it would help.

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[–] panayiotis-character 8 years ago

By "literally" I mean in the movie's universe the Gods need sacrifices. A God needs always a certain sacrifice to be happy, not different kind from different countries.
Of course the movie is a metaphor so the American audience wants the five types of persons to die, Japanese audience expects to see the ghost of an angry dead killing anyone etc.

I love metaphors in movies and this didn't spoil it for me, I just feel there should be an explanation.

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

It seems the gods didn't really care what rituals were followed, as long as they were completed.

You are sin.

[–] DrAndreiSmyslov 8 years ago

A God needs always a certain sacrifice to be happy, not different kind from different countries.

Okay. I defer to Preach's reply in both his posts, I did not get the impression they needed a "certain sacrifice."

Whether the victim suffered via an attack from a Zombie Redneck Torture Family member or a Ringu type girl, the Gods only cared the respective ritual produced suffering or death. Or at least that's my impression.

And those rituals have certain rules. For example, Sitterson explains, "... they have to make the choice of their own free will. Otherwise the system doesn't work. It's like the harbinger. It's this creepy old *beep*, practically wears a sign, "You will die." Why do we put him there? The system. They have to choose to ignore him and they have to choose what happens in the cellar. . . . ".

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[–] Rockhound6165 8 years ago

However, they didn't go of their free will. They were manipulated in some way. Jules being the slut even though she wasn't really a slut. Curt being a brain even though he wasn't really a brain nor having a cousin. Stuff like that. Then using pheromones and subliminal suggestion in order for them to behave a certain way. In fact, if you look at it, there is nothing they do of their own free will save from purging the system.

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

They did ignore the harbinbger of their own volition.

You are sin.

[–] Rockhound6165 8 years ago

They did ignore the harbinbger of their own volition.

No, they didn't. The harbinger is just a Mcguffin. They're going to the cabin whether they want to or not.

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

Yes, they did ignore him. The controllers specifically mention so.

Also, he's not a macguffin because he's not driving the plot.

[–] DrAndreiSmyslov 8 years ago

However, they didn't go of their free will. They were manipulated in some way.

And Sitterson acknowledges that, or accounts for that.....

TRUMAN: How can you wager on this when you control the outcome?

HADLEY: No, we just get 'em in the cellar. They take it from there.

SITTERSON: No, they have to make the choice of their own free will. Otherwise the system doesn't work. . . . . Yeah, we rig the game as much as we need to, but in the end, they don't transgress . . .

HADLEY: . . . They can't be punished.

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