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A few profound questions, or what if scenarios.

posted 8 years ago by razorblade-03644
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1. Were the creatures caught or man made? We know that giant Gods exist underground, so caught isn't so far fetched.

2. If The Fool could simply be shot & killed by the armed guards to complete the ritual, doesn't that mean ALL of them could simply be killed by the armed guards? If that is the case, why not just (again) simply line the kids up and shoot them to complete the ritual? What is the point of using creatures to kill them (plus all of the cost and risk of completing the ritual the traditional way)?

3. If the kids (for lack of a better name) killed all of the Redneck Zombies, what would the crew do next? Release another creature? Holden & Curt I'm betting could do some damage if they focused on kicking ass beast mode rather then protecting the dames.

4. If one of the kids had blown the conche shell AFTER the Latin journal words were read, would that Merman monster be released as well as the Redneck Zombies? Or would the crew only allow one (or group) of monster(s) to be released?

5. Why didn't Dana notice or react or tell the others about the jolt/shock that made her drop the knife (after she stabbed the hanging Zombie in the cellar)?

6. Sitterson said a world with awakened Gods would be more terrifying then anything imaginable. What could the Giants Gods do or create that would be more disturbing or terrifying then a group of monster creatures? Nothing I can think of!!

7. Why did Terry Notary as The Clown go uncredited?? Shame.

Oh yeah, and one more thing.

RONALD THE INTERN RULES !!!!!!!!!

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

1) I'd say both.

2) You said it yourself: Ritual. If guards just line them up from the beginning, then there's no ritual.

3) Yeah, they'd definitely release another monster. Remember, there's no way out. So they're there to die. Problem is Holden and Curt can't focus. They're being manipulated with chemicals. They all were. Except Marty.

4) I'd say one at a time. Traditional horror movies have one type of monster only.

5) Didn't feel it enough. Or she was still somewhat wonky. Remember, they're constantly being drugged.

6) Really? You can't think of what a giant god popping up through the earth's crust could do?

7) Bruce Willis once went uncredited during Four Rooms because he was doing it as a favor and received either very little or no money. Could've been a similar case here.

Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead.

[–] razorblade-03644 8 years ago

A few more questions.

When Hadley pulled the lever after what they thought was the death of the Fool, why did blood pour out of the machine if he hadn't actually died? I wouldn't think it would be the blood of the redneck zombie that we discover the Fool killed.

What do you think of the theory that the Fool was actually the Virgin, and vice versa?
After re watching several times,
-Dana could be the Fool because she slept with the professor, and Jules could not figure out why. (Jules looked at her actions as Foolish).
-Dana is the Fool because she is the one that utters the words & makes the decision as to what creature to released.
-Dana is the Fool for betraying her friend at the final climax of the movie and almost making the decision to kill him over the Director. Yes, in her mind she was trying to save the world, but her hesitations made her foolish, when Marty's decisions & actions were always crystal clear & without hesitation.

-Marty looked down and blushed when speaking about his makeout session with Jules, and felt the need to tell the others...can't remember exactly what he said, but sounded like he was ashamed of not being able to bang her. Maybe its a jump, but perhaps he is the actual virgin, especially when we know for sure that Jules really isn't one. Jules: "I am not a virgin", Director: "Well, we do the best with what we got". Perhaps the Director received bad intel.
-In the RV Marty says, "Society needs to crumble, we are just too *beep* to let it happen. We will see things my way." Fast forward to when the Director speaks about the end of the world & pleads to Jules, This sounds to me like trying to save humanity is actually foolish (reinforcing Jules as a fool, while Marty is always steadfast and wise.
Also, seeing how the world's guardians (Sitterson & Hadley) are arrogant morons with no empathy that party and drink Tequilla (along with the rest of the crew) while a young women is being murdered, perhaps Marty is right that society needs to crumble.

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

The blood Hadley pulled was just ritualistic blood. Blood they already had prepared. It was symbolic, not actually the fool's blood.

I actually don't subscribe to the theory that the Fool was the Virgin and vice versa. The movie itself is a send up of horror movies and their tropes, so naturally, the characters had to fit those tropes.

The characters were essentially actors in a horror movie. And just like actors don't always fall exactly into the characters they portray, neither did the main characters of Cabin in the Woods. I'm sure Jaime Lee Curtis was not a virgin when she played Laurie Strode. Or that Jaime Kennedy is such a horror movie obsessed fool like in Scream. All that matters is that they play the part in the movie.

It was the same scenario for the Cabin in the Woods characters. It didn't matter what Jules had done in the past. All that mattered was that she played the virgin (final girl) character once she entered the "game." Remember: Curt was not the stereotypical dumb jock. He was on an academic scholarship. But he was made to play one in the ritual. Jules was not a dumb blonde; she was made one through chemicals in her hair dye. Again, for the ritual. Holden wasn't some skinny scholar. He was a big, buff dude. But he started getting smarter and even wearing glasses once he started being manipulated. Jules was not a virgin; she was made to play one.

However, regardless of what they were really like, once the ritual started, they were made to fit and play the roles they were assigned. That's all that mattered. So even if Marty was a virgin in real life, he was the fool in the ritual.

So it's an interesting theory but not one I give any real credence to.

Also, seeing how the world's guardians (Sitterson & Hadley) are arrogant morons with no empathy

I gotta disagree. We see how they react after Jules' death. They're solemn and quiet. They don't enjoy people being killed. They may make bets and dumb jokes, but they are not without sympathy. The celebration was that they believed they had completed the ritual and saved humanity.

It's similar to how some paramedics and doctors can go have some drinks and fun even after they've lost a patient. It's not because they can't feel or they're arrogant. It's because if they dwell on it every time they lose someone, it would psychologically destroy them. They have to compartmentalize it.

Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead.

[–] Crystal (534) 6 years ago

You are right. Except that virgin girls are considered more sexy and likely in these movies/rituals.

[–] razorblade42069 8 years ago

Great answers Caleb!

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

Domo arigato.

Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead.

[–] Steve_2 8 years ago

There was a line in the movie where one says "remember the old days where you could just throw a girl into a volcano?"

So I think yes they could just kill the kids themselves but it would risk angering the gods if the ceremony were not elaborate or entertaining enough.

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

Good point. And that actually ties in further into horror tropes.

Like saying "Remember the old days when Frankenstein could just lumber along and choke someone to death off-screen?"

Just like the in-movie rituals for the gods, the rituals of horror movies have become more elaborate in order to entertain audiences.

Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead.

[–] razorblade42069 8 years ago

I just bought & received the visual companion book. As you are a fan, I highly recommend it. Lots of interviews, insights and nice creature design & set design art.

[–] PreachCaleb 8 years ago

I'll definitely have to keep an eye out for it.

Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead.