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New phenomenon: Double time jump at the end (SPOILERS)

posted 16 years ago by Sinnema
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Now that I think about it, the last jump depicted in the movie was actually a double-jump (or maybe a "jump-squared").

Sam and his sister were already in the past, as their younger selves in that warehouse. Then, already in the past, they both jumped farther back in time again to when they were kids in the fire.

I don't think this has been shown before in a "Butterfly Effect" movie: where a character, already in the past, can jump again farther back into the past, without returning to the "present" first.

Since this is established, then why couldn't the sister, trapped in the fire at the end after she had already jumped backward in time twice, just jump back in time once more to an hour earlier, and just walk out of the house before the fire started?

[–] xyrrus 16 years ago

It theoretically makes sense since the time they jump to is a time when they knew how to jump. Anyway I don't think Jenna knew how to jump yet when their house burned down which would explain why she couldn't escape. This could be backed up by the fact that Sam saved her originally and not herself.

And just to cover all possiblities, the mid-future Jenna would have no idea where Sam was jumping to... even if she did, she wouldn't know or would be smart enough to jump to an hour before where Sam jumped to. And once she jumps into a time where she hasn't learned to jump yet, it's too late to go back again to save herself.

[–] kent666 16 years ago

Yeah, didn't think about the double jump thing. Anyway, maybe it was hard for Jenna to jump since they were both inside the house which was on fire. And in order for a person to jump is to concentrate and the negative effect was a hot body temperature to the point that your brain would be fried overtime if used consequently (as depicted also on the other Butterfly Effect movies). So, the fire plus jumping would be quite possible too at the risk of probably your life. But I guess it was just too difficult for Jenna to jump at that time due to the fire.

[–] zekk4hire 16 years ago

didn't think she jumped from that point back to a child; I remember her asking him as he was jumping where he was jumping. Plus, he grabbed onto her as he was jumping, so it's probably safe to assume she didn't jump at all, but was pulled by him.

[–] willx-robinson 16 years ago

I agree, she wasn't able to 'get the jump on him' (pun intended) as most of the times she'd jumped beforehand were when she was with him; then, of course she'd already read out the times and dates he was jumping to so was able to jump back to a point in time before he'd arrived (so to speak).

I've just watched it and it's still going round my head like a never ending toilet flush. The more I'm trying to think of it the more I'm mixing things up. In a word... 'Aargh'

[–] Scott-o-bot 16 years ago

"...so it's probably safe to assume she didn't jump at all, but was pulled by him."

What they're doing is NOT physically time traveling--they are capable of controlling their past selves through their own eyes. Neither of them left the warehouse.

My assumption would be that her future state of mind was not there at all, but perhaps she (as the child) saw him through the crack of the door and thus asked why he was doing what he was doing.

[–] dinosaur-19 16 years ago

"But I guess it was just too difficult for Jenna to jump at that time due to the fire."

Yes, it was the Fire Effect. o_O

[–] iamredemption 16 years ago

No, it doesn't matter, Sam jumped 1st and altered time first, thus erasing Jenna from the future timeline. So Jenna would not be able to jump back to undo Sam locking her in the fire - she doesn't exist anymore. Furthermore, as kids, they didn't know howto jump yet.

[–] dinosaur-19 16 years ago

Goldburg's relationship with Sam and time travel was very interesting.

I wish there had been more background discussion on this issue, such as early training.

Goldburg seemed very perceptive about the details.

[–] voyagerandsouthpark 16 years ago

thats my theory too, he went back in time and changed the future making jenna cease to exist, making it impossible for her to jump back and save herself. If she had jumped back at the same time as him then it would have made a difference but he jumped first.

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[–] scarletminded 14 years ago

I think the pulling theory makes sense, Sam travelled and Jenna let herself be pulled into where he was. It would make sense because then she'd be there to kill people and that would also make sense when Goldberg told Sam not to watch the murders of people close to him. That way, he couldn't pull Jenna into place where they both knew people and she could kill them.