Since Moore supports more regulations on business's to reduce harm done, i wonder if he would carry those over to his industry of films to protect people from damage done, I'm thinking like the danish Mohammad cartoons incident
shareOf course he's pro-censorship. That's why he takes a lot of clips, presents them incomplete and/or out of context and fills in the rest with his own rantings.
That's how good, solid propaganda is made.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
Old MacDonald called from his farm, he wants his straw-man back.
sharelook I'm not out to upset people (well...haha) i just for once want a healthy debate about these issues instead of the theatrics of the michael moores and whoever the equivalent republican or right wing agenda setters are (Fox is generally considered the other biased media, I'm from Australia so not 100% on that)
so much of this stuff just turns into such childish arguments and things never change and thats honestly what I'm looking for
@stephengilchrist1 Well if you want debate then the IMDb boards will provide that, though they won't necessarily be healthy.
Maybe you should pick one issue and slog that one out until you've got what you want. Then move onto the next potato.
It's amazing how effective propoganda is. If Corporate America put all of us in work camps and fed us rice and beans people would still wave the American flag and say this is the best country on the planet. If they took the elderly and disabled off Social Security and gassed them, Americans would still call you a traitor or a terrorist if you even questioned it.
No one has even noticed that Goldman Sachs, Bank of America and JP Morgan Chase have PURCHASED our government. BOUGHT, SOLD and PAID FOR. They own the executive, legislative and certainly the judicial branch. The courts and judges don't even try to hide their bias against the people anymore. Why should they? The worst that will happen is they will occuply their courts and then they'll be arrested.
There are so many people out of work, the Army doesn't even need to recruit anymore. It's easier to find a war than a job. If you do enlist, hopefully you won't return from Iraq or Afghanistan injured. The government considers you as disposable as toilet tissue. Even the soldiers that don't get killed come back with such terrible PTSD they can't even function in society anymore. How in the hell did things get this bad? Did good men just sit around doing nothing while these evil men took over completely?
What's the point in even voting? Haven't we learned from OBama that change won't happen and it isn't going to happen. NOTHING is going to change. The billionaires own America and they will pay good money to keep favoritism with the man in the Oval Office. The rest of us are *beep* It's sad.
Did good men just sit around doing nothing while these evil men took over completely?
What's the point in even voting?
You just demonstrated the attitude that you complain about other people having.
Voting doesn't matter when the billionaires own both political parties. The only way we can effect change is to gather in large numbers and demand it. But look at what's happening to our First Amendment Rights to assemble, they are being taken away. The police are cracking down on the protesters everywhere and locking them up. You can't make any difference at the ballot box anymore. Where is all of this change Obama promised?? Nothing is going to change.
If you protest corporations, bankers or Wall Street executives, you will be arrested and accused of creating anarchy and civil unrest. Look at how loosely defined the word terrorist has become. Now that there's only a handful of media outlets owned by corporations, they can spin the news however they want. They don't want any trouble makers questioning anything. America has become the 1984 Orwell wrote about.
Evermore, I'm actually Australian so i don't wave the American flag.
But a lot of people from the both sides of the political spectrum (the left...I'm guessing you are maybe?) make the mistake that they disagree on subjects (ie the bailouts etc) we just blame different people.
Your completely justified in placing your anger in the banks and corporations for getting the taxpayers money (car makers as well), but thats a problem of large government for being easily controlled and influenced with lobbyists. Its just Michael Moores solution is not a solution at all, he thinks the wrong people were in charge and making the decisions and i think it would just be better if they didnt have those people with so much pull in government.
I class myself as a libertarian btw, for what its worth
"If you protest corporations, bankers or Wall Street executives, you will be arrested and accused of creating anarchy and civil unrest."
No, you're just living in a fantasy world held aloft by sollipsism and socialist propaganda.
Protest or criticize the standing Left Wing President and his authoritarian poicies of failure and war crimes, however, and you will be immediately labelled as a racist Right-Wing militia terrorist. That doesn't come as a result of Capitalism, but as a result of the centralized, unquestionable statism people like you and Michael Moore clamor for.
"America has become the 1984 Orwell wrote about. "
1984 was specifically about the Communist totalitarianism Moore glorifies, you uninformed peon.
Pointing out liberal hypocrisy, is not a strawman argument....plenty of examples where libs love to make rules and regulations, that don't apply to themselves.
Remember the high percentage of Obama nominees that were exposed for avoiding their taxes, while being the first at the top of the mountain, to shout for more taxes?
Socialism is for the people...not the socialists!