Lucas SW isn't for Loxists and Black Supremacists...
...who are offended by Luke Skywalker's huWhite skin. Disney Star Wars is for them.
shareWoke Disney killed this franchise. I liked Andor but Ahsoka was dull, The Acolyte was woke trash and the trailer for The Skeleton crew is a childrens movie. Joss Whedons Serenity had a much smaller budget, no big studio backing and no huge A list actors and it was better than all of the new Star wars movies and shows.
shareI was agreeing with you, but Joss Whedon is a god to the woke Communists and Serenity is cringe, sorry.
shareDisagree with you there. Nothing woke about Firefly or Serenity. And Serenity was a good movie.
shareGood movies don't bomb at the box office, Serenity bombed and Firefly sucked so bad it was cancelled after 14 episodes.
shareSerenity did bombed. Can't argue that but i still loved it. Your wrong about Firefly though. Like many brilliant but cancelled shows Firefly got axed simply because it didn't find an audience fast enough and the execs in charge were too dumb to see its cult hit potential. Unfortunately most fans didn't catch on to it till it hit DVD.
shareFirefly is easily one of the most revered sci-fi series of all time. This is a wack point of view.
shareOnly the woke Whedon Cult revere it, cope harder. And Mal is a Dollar Store Han Solo wannabe.
shareWhat the hell are you talking about? Have you see its userscore on every single film/tv website?
It's easily the most lamented TV cancellation of all time.
The Whedon Cult are the terminally online cat ladies who manipulate scores with bots but don't support anything financially. If it's so beloved, where is the sequel?
shareI'll await evidence that the "Whedon cult" (which isn't a thing really, Josh Whedon is not that popular) manipulate scores across all of IMDB, Serializd, Trakt, Simkl etc.
>If it's so beloved, where is the sequel?
Are you familiar with the concept of cult followings? Plenty of things got cancelled early but were left with a strong fanbase.
Prove all the scores you're touting are real humans. If they were real, there would be some kind of new Netflix Firefly show or movie.
shareSo is it your contention that every single userscore for every single title on IMDB, Simkl, Trakt, etc are all manipulated by bots?
>If they were real, there would be some kind of new Netflix Firefly show or movie.
https://www.cancelledscifi.com/2022/09/20/why-was-firefly-cancelled-and-could-it-be-revived/
There's plenty of discussion on this. Feel free to read.
https://screenrant.com/firefly-show-fox-episodes-out-of-order-cancellation-problem/#:~:text=Firefly%20was%20canceled%20after%20only,doomed%20the%20science%20fiction%20series.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/firefly-at-15-how-a-canceled-show-became-a-cult-favorite-1040829/
https://gamerant.com/underrated-sci-fi-tv-series-canceled-one-season-firefly-almost-human/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0303461/ratings/?ref_=tt_ov_rt
There's so much evidence of Fireflys cult following. You are living in a fictional world.
"A cult following refers to a group of dedicated and passionate fans who are highly devoted to a particular work, such as a movie, TV show, book, music band, video game, or even a public figure. This devotion often persists despite the work's NICHE appeal, LIMITED COMMERCIAL SUCCESS, or mainstream recognition."
shareYes, it didn't have an audience like Friends. It was high budget for its time, and its episodes were played out of order, but amongst those who did watch it (sci-fi nerds) it was hugely acclaimed. It's iconic in geek communities.
shareThat means a SMALL group of slop guzzlers with low standards like it.
shareSo you think the vast bulk of the sci-fi fandom are "slop guzzlers"?
What sci-fi do you like, may I ask?
The perverted Whedon cult do not represent the majority of LEGIT sci fi fans, they are the lowlifes and cat ladies.
shareThis is a completely unfalsifiable claim. And again, the sci-fi community is much larger than that. Firefly is almost universally beloved in sci-fi communities.
What sci-fi do you like?
Stay deluded in your thinking that a significant amount of people agree with you. I pity Whedon fans.
shareWhats deluded is your denial of facts. I sense your either trolling or your just plain out of touch with the sci fi community. I dare you to find a significant amount of people to agree with you that the show was bad.
The IMDB score speaks for itself. And Joss Whedon is a talented guy who got cancelled because of a couple of whiny actors from one single show who owe any fame they have to him.
The entire sci fi community agreed Firefly sucked in 2002, so it got cancelled.
sharePlenty of highly rated TV series have been cancelled throughout the years. The sci-fi community is not the primary viewing audience of any network. You are genuinely delusional. You live in a world where everyone is wrong - but you.
You still have not answered what sci-fi you actually like.
Most fans didn't even discover the show till after it was cancelled so your argument makes no sense. And once it found it's audience the over whelming fan consensus was that it was one of the best sci fi shows on tv.
What kind of sci fi fans don't keep up with the newest and current sci fi shows while they're being broadcasted? Clueless dumbasses that's who.
sharePlenty of fans on here, actually. Including you.
Have you seen The Expanse?
Me. All the time. I've been meaning to check out Fringe and Manifest for a while but just haven't gotten to it yet. Haven't seen the Expanse yet either but i've heard good things.
Your telling that no show has ever slipped under your radar. I didn't watch Breaking bad until a few years after it ended and it became one of my favorite shows.
Fan of Whedon here, and yes, I agree that Mal is Han Solo inspired, but he is a GOOD wannabe.
There were some proto woke elements to the show. But they were balanced out by some...ANTI?-woke elements.
Mal was a WHITE MALE leader who fought for the CONFEDERACY, respected and supported by his second in command, BLACK WOMAN.
Jane was hilarious as a tough and competent WHITE MALE.
Hell, the very act of colonizing is anti-woke as demonstrated by the sudden loss of human, vulcan and other colonies in star trek.
"There were some proto woke elements to the show."
I disagree. People also claim Buffy was a woke show. Having gay/ethnic/female characters doesn't by default make something woke. Overly focusing those inane qualities as if they matter is where the wokeness comes in. Whedon doesn't do that.He simply writes good characters whether they be male or female.
Buffy was a great show and Whedon did a great job with it.
BUT, there were a few glimpses of the way our culture was going, and it did at times hurt the show some.
1. Willow was not a lesbian. SHe had real relationships with Zander AND Oz. You don't get to rewrite history and pretend that those events did not take place. In the show it was disrespectful to those characters.
2. Zander deserved a bit more respect in later seasons. It was one thing for him to be nearly nothing but comic relief in the early seasons, but by the time of say... the Initiative, he had a record that even the professional soldiers should have respected.
Willow suddenly coming out always seemed odd to me given her relationship with Zander and Oz. Picard did this with Seven. 4 seasons on Star trek Voyager as a straight character and suddenly out of no where shes gay on Picard. No less with another Picard character who started season 1 as straight and was gay by the second season.
And i agree Zander never seemed to get much respect from the writers. He never really seemed to rise above second banana comic releif status.
The far more numberous good elements of the show outweighted the weak, "woke" ones. But, they are worth noting.
I didn't see Picard. I certainly saw enough of vorager to see that Seven had some interest in...what was his name? Lieutenant Harry Kim.
Why do you feel the need to shit on things people like? I haven't seen either show so I can't comment on their quality but Jesus Christ, you must enjoy being a dick, can you explain how that is fun?
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