Who will play the son??? - The Lost City of Z (2017) Discussion

[–] azcardinals 16 years ago

how old is the son

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[–] dannyb278 16 years ago

21 years old i believe

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[–] dannyb278 16 years ago

any one but shia lebuff, or anybody from Twilight

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[–] azcardinals 16 years ago

haley joel osment...it would be a nice comeback for him

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[–] speekloud 16 years ago

joseph gordon-levitt...he's a little older but he could pull it off

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[–] endiadj 11 years ago

How right you were. Robert Pattinson has been cast in the film with Benedict in what I assume to be the role of the son.

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[–] GJSchear 11 years ago

Talk about taking 2 plus 2 and making 97. There's only 10 years age difference between Pattinson and Cumberbatch, you know. I think it's fair to assume there are more male parts in the film than just the father and son.

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[–] VictoriaTeh 11 years ago

I was working that out... 10 years might be enough... I mean in the past, people did sire children in their teens (give 2-3 years wiggle room...so 13-ish), even if it is frowned upon today.

In the 4th Mummy movie Brendan Frasier had to be like 6 years old when he had that boy. LOL. That was a little ridiculous, but they still ran with it.

I think you can shave a few years both ways with a bit of make up and Benedict Cumberbatch has this amazing ability of pretty much nailing the look of his character. Which if we look at the old photos of Fawcet, he was heavily bearded and scruffy looking. So I think a scraggly greying beard might add a few years pretty easily. (..15-ish years)

So, if they make Pattinson look a bit younger, they could widen the age gap to about (18years.. and that sounds at least legal...) I think it could work.

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[–] VictoriaTeh 11 years ago

Ok, I just saw a fan made pic of a City of Z poster and just seeing them side by side there was a bit of a moment of "OMG, Ben looks younger than his "son" Pattinson." Lol!!! It was fan made though, and like I said that wasn't like properly in make up and costume which could probably change that.

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[–] Filmguy05 16 years ago

Ryan Gosling.

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[–] awax54 16 years ago

emile hirsh would be perfect

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[–] showbizstw 16 years ago

How about Robert Dough, III ... Looks like him and he's an up and coming actor in Wilmington, NC. Check out his Facebook. Super Nice guy too!

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[–] snowsnowrain 15 years ago

I agree, Emile Hirsch could be very good!

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[–] snowsnowrain 15 years ago

Emile Hirsch. Zac Efron in a serious movie? um...

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[–] JonnyMo 15 years ago

I also think Emile Hirsch would be a fantastic choice. He has similar film experience under his belt already and is much more mature as an actor than say, freakin Zac Efron.

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[–] sadfilmophile 11 years ago

Ezra Miller, who has serious acting abilities, as shown in WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT KEVIN. For a 20 something (and he might've been a teen during the filming of that film) he has great screen presence. He did so much with his silences, it was incredibly remarkable.

Hope he can do a British accent.

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[–] Luna_Moonsong 11 years ago

Hope he can do a British accent.

Robert Pattison already has a British accent.
I hope is him the one playing the son.

Luna

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[–] sadfilmophile 11 years ago

Well I suggested Ezra Miller who turned 21 this September. He's a great young actor and will be able to hold his own in a film with Cumberbatch - he did so with Tilda Swinton so I'm sure he'll be fine. And this thought of HOLDING ONE'S OWN was pointed out by some vlogger who mentioned that while it's awesome for Pattinson to work with BC , he might find his own work will pale in comparison. So that was an interesting thought. I hope Robert Pattinson is the role of whichever other lead that has less screeen time - either the son (Jack)or the son's friend (Raleigh Rimell). (Here's his page but bear in mind his photos a few years old I think www.imdb.com/name/nm3009232/)

But anyway Cumberbatch's real age has nothing to do with the casting. He'll be made to look older as per the real Col , who disappeared at the age of 57 (son was 22). However I havent read the script/novel so am not sure whether they're focusing on that final journey or not.

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[–] Luna_Moonsong 11 years ago

As I said, I am just curious at what logic there may be in these suggestion, if any. Or if these are simply favorite actors whom you would like to see in a job with Benedict. That would be an honor in itself and I can understand that desire for a favorite younger actor.

Well, firstly, excuse my English replying to you. It's not my first language.
Secondly, yes, Robert Pattison is my favorite actor and I would love to see him working with BC. Personally, I think would be an honor for both.
Lastly, Robert's age is 27 but he can look 21 easily.

Luna

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[–] tracygee 11 years ago

It is in terms of the father/son age differences in this historical film that I see the credibility in casting break down, with no offence meant to anyone named.

I find it curious that you consider this a massive credibility issue (Robert Pattinson is 27 and the real character was 22, a whopping five-year age difference); whereas Cumberbatch at 37 playing a 57 year old is just fine?

Cumberbatch will play younger Percy and be aged up with makeup to play older Percy for the second voyage. If Rob ends up playing the son--who was described as having "movie-star good looks" and was blonde--that pretty much fits.

Assuming they can age up Cumberbatch correctly with makeup, I really don't see an issue here...at all.

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[–] GJSchear 11 years ago

I must admit, I haven't yet read the book on which the film will be based (though it's high up on my wish list!) but what I know of Fawcett's life is that it was rich with incident, adventure and notoriety. I really hope the film doesn't focus on his last few months to the exclusion of those other riches.

I mention it because it impacts the likelihood of RP playing Fawcett's son. The young man was 21 when they left for their last trip to the Amazon, but other expeditions were much earlier when he was, obviously, much younger. I'm exceedingly dubious about RP playing a 21 year old, but surely even his most die hard fans realise how unlikely it is that he should play a teenager.

Please understand, my objection isn't to RP, per se, but to him in this particular role. The part of a narrator trying to figure out what happened to the Fawcett party would be a much better fit, IMO.

Also, while Benedict has proven his ability to act much older than his age (in Amazing Grace, for instance), I would hope for the film to show him closer to his own age too.

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[–] tracygee 11 years ago

The part of a narrator trying to figure out what happened to the Fawcett party would be a much better fit, IMO.

It's very unlikely that a "narrator" role is in the film. The film will cover Fawcett's earlier expedition and the last one as well, from what I am hearing.

As for Pattinson, well, he was playing a 17 year old at 26, the "teens" in 90210 were all in their late 20s and thirties, and several of the high schoolers in Glee are in their thirties. Age is not often much of a consideration when it comes to casting.

They needed a name. They couldn't raise the funds to get this thing going when Brad Pitt of all people was the lead. With Benedict involved they have a real chance, and Rob helps things (he especially helps sales in the international market). I hope they get some investment and it goes forward, no matter who is doing what role. It's a great book.

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[–] GJSchear 11 years ago

Perhaps 'narrator' wasn't the word I should have used. I meant someone like a journalist, maybe even David Grann, who was trying to discover the truth of Fawcett's disappearance.

I hope for his sake Pattinson isn't going to try to play a teenager. Personally, I thought he was much too old in the Harry Potter film, and that was some years ago. Miscasting him in that way would do him no favours and could hurt the film too.

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[–] tracygee 11 years ago

I meant someone like a journalist, maybe even David Grann, who was trying to discover the truth of Fawcett's disappearance.

Oh. I doubt there's such a character in the film. It would serve no purpose. It works for the book, but not for a movie. It's repetitive.

Personally, I thought he was much too old in the Harry Potter film, and that was some years ago.

Well, that's just your prejudice against him, then, really. He was an 18-year-old who looked 18 who was playing 18 when they shot the film. Not sure what else you can expect there.

I'm not married to the idea that he's playing the son (there's actually a role I'd rather he have than that one), I just think (based on the description of most of the characters) that is the most likely scenario.

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[–] GJSchear 11 years ago

I'm not insisting on there being an independent observer in the film, I'm just suggesting it as an alternative role for Pattinson that might be a better fit.

Well, that's just your prejudice against him, then

Prejudice is defined as a preconceived notion that has no bias in fact. RP's inability to convince me that he was a teenager was due to his general appearance and the contrast between himself and the other actors in the film who looked much younger than he. I had no preconceived notion because I'd never seen him in anything before. Of course, prejudice is an easy word to bandy about if you can't come up with a cogent argument.

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[–] tracygee 11 years ago

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NRirk3kXjqw/UBcUUx0EY0I/AAAAAAAAAdY/HIOYe7QC cog/s1600/RobertPattinson-CedricDiggory.jpg

Exactly what do 17/18 year olds look like where you're from???

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[–] indranee19 11 years ago

I'm not insisting on there being an independent observer in the film, I'm just suggesting it as an alternative role for Pattinson that might be a better fit.

Well, that's just your prejudice against him, then

Prejudice is defined as a preconceived notion that has no bias in fact. RP's inability to convince me that he was a teenager was due to his general appearance and the contrast between himself and the other actors in the film who looked much younger than he. I had no preconceived notion because I'd never seen him in anything before. Of course, prejudice is an easy word to bandy about if you can't come up with a cogent argument.

No, that IS your prejudice (or whatever) against Pattinson. Because, as pointed out by Tracygee, in that HP movie, Robert was an 18-year old playing an 18-year old.

I don't understand what the problem is here. Ben will obviously be aged up (much more than he is) and Robert aged down. It's obvious that, like other recent films he's made, Robert is a force when it comes to greenlighting (read, financing) of certain projects. This is yet another one. I'm sure Benedict's recent box office popularity has a lot to do with it, as well (Fifth Estate failed despite his topnotch performance and that was far from his fault. That film had some fatal flaws).

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[–] tracygee 11 years ago

What people are missing is that BENEDICT is the one that will be significantly aged up. Fawcett was 39 at his first expedition, 57 at his last one. And the son only went on the last expedition.

So Rob playing the son of a 57 year old is not going to look particularly odd at all to the audience.

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[–] mumager 11 years ago

I'm wondering if Rob is cast as the friend who travels with them on the final journey. I've not read the book, so I have no idea of Raleigh's age at the time. If he's not been cast as the son,and I rather hope he hasn't, I agree with Ezra Miller, or possibly Douglas Booth.

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[–] kreizimam 11 years ago

I think Pattinson will be the son.
Although if he is then he's not that prominent in the movie. I understand that the movie will cover Fawcett's 3 expeditions. The son only included on the third (last) one.

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[–] sadfilmophile 11 years ago

Would anyone here say that 23 year old Aaron Taylor-Johnson is enough of a crowd-puller? He's British, younger than Rob, and a fine actor. I just think I'd "buy into" Aaron in a jungle adventure more than Rob. But its so hard to compare since Aaron does action well in the KICK ASS films and Rob has mostly played depressed people who look bored; even in WATER WITH ELEPHANTS he wasnt as physical and his acting seems restricted to facial expressions (yup have watched 7 of his movies).

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[–] susie5552003 11 years ago

Just curious as to why so many people on this thread are not proposing actors in the 18 t0 22 year old category.

Why would people propose other actors when Robert Pattinson has already been cast and is probably playing the son? If the role has already been cast, then there's no reason for people to propose other actors.

And actors in the "18 to 22 year old category" to play 22? Hollywood almost NEVER casts teens to play people in their 20s. They cast the other way around. When casting a 22 year old, they will usually go with an actor in the 22 year - 32 year old range and Robert Pattinson at 27 is actually a good fit.

Look at Spiderman, they have Andrew Garfield who is over 30 years old playing a teenager, a 17 year old. So a 27 or 28 year old Robert Pattinson playing 22 is actually a lot better than how they usually cast.

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[–] CurzonStreet 10 years ago

Metro UK did an interview with Pattinson this week, and they say he'll be playing Fawcett's assistant, not the son.
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[–] CurzonStreet 9 years ago

Fawcett had two sons but neither one has a large part in this film. One of them went on the final expedition with his dad, but that will only be a small part of the movie. Bobby Smalldridge will play young Jack Fawcett and Tom Mulheron will play him when he's older.

Tom Holland will most likely play the other son. He's also been cast as the new SpiderMan.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4043618/reference
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