How could you understand this film if you're not a baseball fan?
I had literally no idea what the *beep* was going on.
shareI had literally no idea what the *beep* was going on.
shareI'm not a fan at all.
Even though I didn't understand all the baseball terms I still understood the gist of it.
It's not like they are martians.
And it them going a different route, picking players based on stastistics alone, they did explain what you needed to know.
All else I guess is just further pleasure for those who actually follows the sport and knows the real story.
I don’t know much about baseball stats but still enjoyed this film. Maybe they should have had cameos of celebrities explain them, like they did for the financial terms in The Big Short.
shareI hate sports and don't fully understand baseball, but what helped me understand this movie was looking at Billy Beane's history a little bit. There were a lot of flashbacks to his earlier life and I wouldn't have made sense of it without that. I'm terrible at following plot.
Also, the book is very very interesting. After reading the book I understood a bit about baseball stats, and also the story of the specific people who came and went from the team.
But to summarize, the pro ball industry had rigid and antiquated ideas and wasn't measuring the right things to get the most out of their players. It was great to see their sexist idiocy exposed. And the stats were the coolest thing.
It's not what it's about, it's how it's about- Roger Ebert
shareIt didn’t really require much knowledge of how the game of baseball is played. The scenes where Billy argues with his coaching staff veterans and about how more popular teams had more money to get “the best players.”
Then there’s also the strategy discussion when Beane and Peter are in the garage that helps. “Teams shouldn’t think of it as buying players, they should think of it as buying runs”
What should’ve been said “buying runs means wins” cause you do have to know that runs means points. If you don’t have that knowledge than it makes sense to be lost.
I don’t follow baseball at all, but I know the basics of how the game works. In the end, I loved it cause it’s the story of two guys who saw things a different way and proved a bunch of people wrong. (Granted, they didn’t invent sabermetrics)
They didnt prove anyone wrong. They lost to the Yankees over and over. They just found a new way for their crappy owner to be cheap and still win some games. And please dont bring up the crap at the end about the Red Sox. They won because their best players were proven roid heads and dragged the rest of the team of bums to some championships, unlike the Yankees, who ironically, were being dragged down by their roid heads (Giambi, ARod).
sharewho were the proven "rod heads"
shareIdk anything about steroids cause I don’t watch baseball, but they broke a long held record winning streak and afterwards other teams reassessed how they win games and value players.
I can’t remember the “crap at the end about the Red Sox”. Beane got an offer to manage? That’s neither here nor there to me.
“Dr. Elitzur created a database for the study, inputting information from 1985 to 2013 about team payrolls, playoff success, the spread of data analytics use, and players' overall contributions to their team, represented by a key statistic from Moneyball's "sabermetrics," -- the type of data the Oakland A's used to identify lower-priced, undervalued players through statistics such as how much time spent on base.
He found that between 1997 and 2001, there were only two "Moneyball" teams in the MLB. Another three teams had taken up the practice by 2002. By 2013, more than 75 percent of MLB teams were using it”
If he didn’t prove anyone wrong, then why did most of the league try to implement it?
cause like I said, implementing it doesn't lead to Championships. 90 percent of the league can use but only 1 team can win the World Series, and it's the team with the best players and you can bet your ass, their girlfriends are hot! lol Meanwhile the guy leading the league in wRC+ cant use that to pick up chicks.
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