'...unless you want to get married on Septermper 11th'
I seriously doubt an Englishwoman would be bothered about getting married on that date. It means next to nothing to us.
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People will hate me for saying this, but it's ridiculous that anyone would consider not getting married on September 11th because something horrific happened on 09/11/2001. Give it 5-10 years and nobody is going to care about the specific date (I'm not belittling what happened on 09/11/2001, just being realistic).
I'm sure for years after 12/07/1941, people steered clear of getting married then. But most people don't even have a clue what happened on that day nowadays. Same goes for 06/06/1944 (and just how many people got married on 06/06/2006 because it would be "cool"?). And likely dozens of other days that are sad/devastating for historical reasons.
I think you're wrong, for the sole reason that we call that day "9/11".
12/07/1941 = "Attack on Pearl Harbor".
06/06/1944 = "D-day".
09/11/2012 = "9/11".
If we called it "The attacks on WTC and Pentagon" I'm sure most people would have forgotten the actual date a long time ago.
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I can agree to an extent, but I still think that a decade or so from now "9/11" won't be nearly as big of a deal (again, not saying what happened is trivial as it most definitely was not). At least, not for the majority of the US and especially not the rest of the world. I wouldn't personally take issue with someone choosing to get married on 9/11 unless they were doing it in a distasteful way. And tons of people's birthdays and anniversaries are on that day as it is (I even know someone who got married 09/11/1998).
As I said though, I do see your point. :)
I wouldn't hold it against someone if they got married that day, but I can certainly understand why they would not want to purposely make their anniversary date that. It was funny too to know that this would be one date a wedding venue would have free--I had not thought of that but it's probably true.
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You are aware that it IS already a decade later, right? I doubt another decade will make much difference to the stigma that date holds.
Nobody watched the Pearl Harbor attack or D-Day over and over on their televisions--actually watched bodies falling. Those other events didn't happen right in people's neighborhoods, right in a busy part of Manhattan. And like a previous poster said, it's called 9/11, not the World Trade Towers Pentagon Terrorist Attacks. For those alive when it happened, even those who were very young, that date's going to mean something for a long time. In a hundred years, okay, it will still be a recognized date, but people will be okay getting married on it.
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09/11/2001 = 9/11
I'm an Englishwoman, and it doesn't mean 'next to nothing' to me. If i knew someone getting married on 9/11 (although it's 11/9 really :P) I'd still stop and think 'ouch, unfortunate date'. I probably wouldn't want to just because the date is so etched in everyone's consciousness.
shareNot if you're getting married in America to an American. Side note, probably not the best date to pick regardless because if you want to travel on your honeymoon you will have to deal with tighter security at airports etc.
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Sisterpete, I try to remain polite on these boards but you are a complete ass and need to get over yourself. Incredibly self centered and callous comment.
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The fact that it means nothing to you, is the problem. Three thousand humans tragically died that day, it should affect you. I had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor or the Holocaust, but am still terrible affected by the loss of life. It's called being human, and you have some serious empathy issues. Have a little respect for the dead and keep you demeaning comments to yourself.
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I guess time heals all wounds. We lost 2300 Americans killed on December 7, 1941, and interestingly, America didn't really even commemorate the date until decades after the 1940's. For example, only a few newspapers even noted on 12-7-51 that it was the ten year anniversary of Pearl Harbor day, and Life magazine, the largest magazine in America, didn't mention it at all. I guess people weren't as self-absorbed back in those days, and they had real lives and problems to live instead of anniversaries to constantly commemorate. Here is an interesting article of how 12-7-51 differed from 9-11-11 (it's really more about how America of the 1950's differs from America now). http://m.startribune.com/nation/?id=129184953
shareNorth americans have kill more than 3,000 people in other countries and no one cares, also lots of people die from terrible events in other countries, someone from north america cares? NO ,If something happens in USA , then everyone has to care? liek WHY? and Im not being insensitive Im just saying the truth...so who has empathy issues again?
shareWHy should it affect him? If he had no family that died during the attacks, why should he care? Do you suggest he patronize those people by pretending he was deeply wounded by their losses? When people wake up in the morning, I doubt many of them consider the many lives lost in the Spanish Inquisition, or the Salem witch burnings, or the crusades, or the black plague, or the French Revolution, or any other part of blood filled history. Why should 9/11 be treated any differently? Life goes on. People adapt.
shareMy nephew got married on September 11th, 2010. I expressed misgivings about it both for the date and for the fact it was 1 day after our anniversary which meant we would spend that day traveling. There were also several other weddings there that day (he got married at Yosemite) so I figured I was the only one that was bothered by the date.
Of course, he died 2 months later on Thanksgiving in the Khandahar region of Afghanistan (which is why they had few other dates to choose from in the first place since they had so little time till he deployed) so it's not bloody likely anyone in our family will ever get beyond either of those 2 days when they come around every year.
That's terrible, madmarsha... sorry for your family's loss.
And yeah, to CircusPriest—of course there is a 'sane' reason to avoid that date. Regardless of whether these characters were able to get over 9/11/2001 in a week's time as you did, the average person is still going to associate it with something specific and crappy no matter what the context may be. I know someone born on September 11, and bartenders and bouncers have all glimpsed the date on her license and sympathized, 'oooh, 9/11.' It's just a date that resonates (in a bad way), and most people aren't going to want to invite that for the rest of their lives when their anniversary is up to them. 'Wow, you guys got married on September 11? Interesting, what's that like, what made you pick that date, etc., etc.'
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I'm from NYC and almost everyone I know knows someone who died in those buildings. Many of us know more than one. Subsequently, I also know first responders that continue to die from exposures at Ground Zero. It may have happened 12 years ago, but it continues to impact us all this time later.
In 2010 I attended a wedding on 9/11, and almost everyone in attendance was whispering about the unfortunate choice of date. The consensus was that it was in terribly bad taste.
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I don't know that I agree with that, but maybe you're right. Who knows? I don't think that I or any of my acquaintances walk around like robotic ghouls on the anniversary, but I DO think that, especially for NYers, it's just not an appropriate date to pick for a celebration. This is mainly due to the fact that there is a good chance that people whom you know lost someone on that date. Furthermore, it was a pretty traumatic experience for people who worked in the city and witnessed the attacks. Around these parts the day has a deep undercurrent of solemnity, and most neighbors host memorial services.
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God what a waste of time.
Very callous of you to say so. I suppose if someone you loved died, that you'd keep them in your memory somehow, and you wouldn't consider it a waste of time. I also suppose that if someone you loved died on a specific day, that you wouldn't choose that to be your wedding day.
At this point it's like celebrating 9/11.
Ah, yes. Candles, memories, and tears. What an awesome celebration!
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I respectfully disagree. There are other things besides parties that happen annually. Memorial Day and Veteran's Day, for instance, are commemorations, not celebrations.
I think that 9/11 is more than just a "death day". It's one of the worst moments in U.S. history, and it resulted in the death of thousands of people. It happened during our lifetime. As time goes on, the personal impact of these events will diminish since there will eventually come a time when every eyewitness is gone. There is nothing wrong or unusual when people who have been touched by the same tragedy get together to pay respect to those who perished. Just like a person may go and bring flowers to a gravesite on holidays or other important occasions. And really, isn't this a way to "celebrate" a person's life? It's not the celebration of the event itself, but a way to honor to say, the 343 firefighters that sacrificed their lives that day.
But, we're sort of getting sidetracked here. The whole point of this thread was to discuss weddings on 9/11. Even though you are the type of person who prefers to say adios, and then you're done, I sincerely doubt that you would choose to get married on the exact same day that your mother or brother died on.
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Sheesh, you seem like a very negative, caustic person. I'm happy for you that these holidays mean nothing to you except a day off from work.
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Like I said, negative and caustic. You must be a popular guy with a lot of friends.
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In other words, you're unable to make friends because you are a caustic, negative person.
Your posts so clearly reveal you to have a hateful, selfish personality, and it's very sad that the only way you find empowerment is by demeaning anyone who embraces values that conflict with your own.
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Good for you!
And anyone who is able to read would be able to see which one of us a) hurled the first insult and b)epitomizes an overall negative and caustic tone.
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Oh yes, keep convincing yourself of that! You're very deluded.
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I feel sorry for the many bitter disappointments that you must have suffered at the hands of others which has made you into a person who completely lacks empathy, and is incapable of valuing or fostering any meaningful relationships. Of course you would be totally unsympathetic to my original argument about 9/11, since it's quite clear that you hate people. You've made it clear that you don't hold anyone or anything in high regard, so why would I care what you think of me? You don't even give a crap about the people in your own life, apparently.
You say you do not care what I think of you, yet you keep coming back here to respond to my posts. What a realistic, genuine person you are!
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My grandmother was born September 11, 1926, and she wont celebrate on 9/11. We usually celebrate the day before or after.
shareOP are you aware that there were 67 British victims on 9/11? There's even a memorial garden for them in NYC. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Garden_at_Hanover_Square
As an American, I would NEVER get married on that day, it might mean "nothing" to some of you (which sounds ridiculous to me.....) but no matter how much time passes I will always remember it as "the darkest day in American history."
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