Tried to get to the end of this movie as I've waited to see it for so long but it's ruined for me by the constant use of the F word; it's in every other scene and really grates on the nerves. It's a lazy way of making movies and I was hugely disappointed with it.
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shareoh please stop your bloody whining. it was used a few times but hardly to excess.
news flash! people use the f word in everyday conversation as well. so its hardly a "lazy way of making movies".
if you have trouble watching a movie that has a few f words thrown in may i suggest you go watch a kids movie.
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My thoughts exactly. This person clearly has some major issues. This movie was *hardly* a film that used profanity to any type of excess. In fact I thought the screenplay was exceptionally well-written as far as that is concerned -- hardly "lazy." Chill out, OP! If you are so uptight, you should stick to "G" rated films and avoid any of those "nasty" words that adults sometimes use in conversations.
shareSorry, but no, the thread author has a point. Profanity, like spice, is best used judiciously, especially for ostensibly professional people like Ryan, Alex and Natalie. Cuss words are appropriate for those characters when there is conflict, like when Natalie calls Ryan on "your bullsh** philosophy", but in other places, not so much.
Obviously, cussing is appropriate in the natural anger of people being fired.
Ostensibly? You mean "actually," right?
shareIn a highly stressful environment and job, cussing is used much more frequently than otherwise. Since this is about firing people, a job that is only slightly less stressful than being a cop or similar, I can easily imagine cussing being part of the company culture...
shareI will give you that, but at somepoint if the movie becomes like an modern day episode of "Deadwood"..... :)
shareI guess it also depends on the viewer... considering I am no stranger to "f" word, I usually don't even notice when someone uses it. I would probably be bothered if it is used in some forced way, but I don't think that was the case here.
shareAt no point did Ryan call Natalie a loopy cnt* I think its safe to say this isn't anything close to Deadwood.
shareI really enjoyed the film, but agree the swearing wasn't necessary. The movie would have worked well enough if the writers had used less colourful language. People have been using expletives for centuries, but it hasn't been until the past few decades that they have become more commonplace in entertainment. A decline in standards is to blame for this. A lot of writers nowadays are incapable of putting pen to paper without thinking of some vulgar adjective. You are right - laziness is a factor too. Lifting a dictionary would probably have been too strenuous for them.
Regarding children's films. They too have seen a downfall in standards. It used to be that they were clean, had morals, and contained good role models. They are now full of toilet humour, obnoxious brats, and questionable language (e.g.: moron, crap, jerk, retard - yes I have heard those words used in films and shows aimed at children). You are hard pushed now to find wholesome entertainment for children.
What a sad state of affairs.
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I'm not writing this as a belittlement of yourself, as it accomplishes nothing in an argument, so please don't take it that way. However, you're ignorance shows on some of your stated viewpoints. The entertainment and stories of today are some of the 'cleanest' in all of human history.
Many of Shakespeare's works are littered with expletives (look up "zounds" or "sbloods"). And in reference to children's stories, I'm sure you're familiar with Grimms' Fairy Tales [for Children]. Most of these stories, and especially the originals from which the Grimm Brothers derived theirs from, are not only unclean, but many are downright disgusting and perverted--moreso than what would even be considered acceptable adult content today!
I know it's the norm to look upon the past nostalgically, with the "if only it were still like then.." thought, but please don't naively think that we are today somehow going madly downhill. The world is in much the same state of turbulent affairs as it always has, and its stories correspond accordingly.
The movie was ruined by a bad plot.
shareJust because you don't understand it doesn't mean there isn't one.
This will be the high point of my day; it's all downhill from here.
I understand it fine, it's a bad plot.
shareI understand it fine, it's a bad plot.Understand that such judgments are subjective but, given that it was nominated for a best screenplay Oscar, I assume you also understand that not all would agree. share
No, you don't. You must be the age of the of Natalie, because if you're a contemporary of Alex and Ryan you'd understand and appreciate what was going on.
This will be the high point of my day; it's all downhill from here.
I'm only 18, but I totally agree with you. Though the issues that Ryan and Alex face aren't even remotely similar to anything I go through or have ever gone through, the issues are so obviously prevalent in our society that somebody would have to be supremely thick that they don't even recognize what goes on in the world everyday. The United States is full of people like Ryan: people for whom work is life and they just want to to get rid of all of their personal contacts with the rest of the world when what they really need is to strengthen those contacts.
I thought the screenplay was incredible, one of the best adapted screenplays in recent years. As for the use of the F word, I wasn't bothered. One of my favorite movies is The Departed, so that may say something about me and the F word, but I honestly didn't think it was misused in the least. First of all, it wasn't used in nearly every seen at least. Fired people are obviously going to spout profanities, so those f bombs can be tossed out the window. From what I recall, though I need to rewatch the film, the majority of the other times that the F word is said, it is said by Ryan or Alex. This shows their total disconnect from the world. In theory, people like them should be married, have children, and be living a happy life while raising and loving their families. In that case, the F word is one of the last things they, as parents, would want to say and pass on to their children. Ryan has no problems with marriage and etc. hence the F word. Alex, though married with children, obviously longs for freedom and independence, hence the F word. I felt the word's use was calculated well and the screenplay was magnificent.
Overall: 10/10, 2nd best movie of the year.
Also, nice American Beauty reference. I bet that has an atrociously large number of F words too.
shareAlso, nice American Beauty reference. I bet that has an atrociously large number of F words too.
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I agree, the use of the word "f_cking" is pretty annoying. I like my profanities to be used better, not as a shorthand for "I am angry! Rawr!"
You see it all the time in Showtime series. United States of Tara or The Big C, for instance: they say "f_cking" when the context doesn't exactly suit it, and when the context does suit it, it's over-used or under-acted.
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My country tried to make it PG13 by cutting the loud F words but kept some of the ones not used as an insult.
I wasn't bothered at all, kinda liked it.
Tried to get to the end of this movie as I've waited to see it for so long but it's ruined for me by the constant use of the F word; it's in every other scene and really grates on the nerves. It's a lazy way of making moviesGuess I just learned that me and the boys are pretty F...ing lazy. Have a feeling you wouldn't enjoy our conversations. share