" how long have we been out here"....windows open and no stars are visible...well thats when i thought..OMFG... its been trillions of years..all the stars have died or space has expanded to the point everything is outside of our visible universe...theres ..NOTHING!... then a *beep* fish swam past and i felt cheated.
shareexactly what i was thinking... the universe was dead and they we're all that was left.. then *beep* nemo swam past..and i knew they'd flinched at the last minuet and bottled a mind blowing ending.
shareI had an idea about a sci-fi show where the characters were trying to stop an event where the universe was contracting back on itself in preparation for the next big bang, and I had an idea for the final ever episode of the last seaon where they reach the wall that is the end of the returning universe and how it's just blackness, with no stars.
Then I wrestled with how it could possibly work because the laws of relativity, light speed and the like dictate that you wouldn't know you were at the edge of the universe until you were already over that threshold and thus wouldn't exist. You would still see stars that no longer existed until the light and the wall reached you simultaneusly.
Kinda put a big steaming dump on what would be a pretty *beep* cool scene. That and I'd have to write something like 7x22 episodes to get to that point and I lose interest in stuff easily. There's a spider on my wall!
I think you know what I'm gettin' at Mr. President. We're gonna kill us a mummy.
Exactly like that book that came out years ago?
sharein these cases you need to dumb yourself down. I have the same problem with my ideas, where I'll over-think them until I pretty much prove them impossible and then I give up on the idea. In the meantime, someone who has no clue, like the idiot(s) that wrote 2012, who obviously had no concern about getting the science right, go and make millions on their stupid ideas. I mean, California literally breaks off and starts sinking into the Pacific!! Or the complete disregard for the laws of aerodynamics, or thermodynamics for that matter.
My point is, sometimes an idea is so good, you need to fudge the science a little.
when it was revealed there were no stars i thought the ship had travelled beyond or to the edge the universe like Event Horizon or the Star Trek TNG episode - 'Where No One Has Gone Before' (or maybe theyd been out there so long the universe has ended and there was nothingness) ....for a minute or so it looked like it was going this way...
then the alien fish swims past and we find out its underwater on Tannis - great twist of course but would an alternate ‘beyond the universe' end have worked?
its not impossible that if ship had travelled for nearly a thousand years at warp speed it would end up in a black hole or whatever and has travelled beyond the universe, beyond the stars....the end of space
itd have been very eerie if the glass had broken and nothing happens - no Vacuum, no getting sucked out - then they look outside and find just endless nothingness...almost like the end of the Truman Show and Interstellar, theyd hit the wall...
In a case like this, you need to invent something. What about a way for some of the characters to see behind the speed of light and see real time what is what, which would actually be a pretty useful tool for a crew going on a mission like that.
You could put it in the windows of the shuttle, or maybe just in some of thair glasses for dramatic effect when only some of the crew can see it...
Those aren't "laws." That's human hubris. They are hypothesis based on human observations, often flawed, always limited.
If you're writing something, don't let government scientists (of all people) limit your imagination!
My just-published novel "World in Exile" is based on an imagined "next phase" of cosmology. It's on Amazon and Barnes & Noble. Author name: Daniel G. Kuttner.
I thought about it being a social experiment where they didn't leave earth at all. Kinda like a test launch that never took place.
shareyea i thought this too! was half-expecting a bunch of scientists to suddenly appear and congratulate Bower for not succumbing to Pandorum after all that! for a flash, i really thought the entire thing was a scenario to study the psychological effects of Pandorum in a "controlled" setting (i.e. everything would have to be somehow simulated with advanced tech, you know, sci-fi style).
i was like... whoa that would be effing cool...
then suddenly, jellyfish.
Yeah, the orginal Twilight Zone did that.
Except it would be impossible to the point of anachronistic. If they had technology to have a self-sustaining ship ride OUTSIDE the galaxy cluster all by itself, they wouldn't have to worry about a pesky tiny event like the destruction of the Earth.
The ending they gave kept the science a lot more believable for the era they are supposedly in. This isn't star trek.
I didn't feel cheated.. I'm. OT sure what the original ending was , I seen this on Shih Fy channel and I rather think the ending was pretty good. Was the ending you are talking about end when they were floating in the surface of the ocean and all the 1200+ pods released due to a hull breach and also, we're floating on the ocean after 923 years of "Travleing". Thanks.. Mjclemm.
shareThis movie is a prime example of "different strokes for different folks." I think the ending is absolutely fantastic. All these people, all thinking they're stranded, when it turns out they're not and the mission went as planned... it's slightly horrific to one degree, and yet powerful and beautiful to another.
I loved the ending. This movie was fantastic.
Agreed it was beautiful all 1200 people get to start a new population on Tanis,
and to the other people how would you feel if you were on a ship in space goin to live on a new planet a one way trip and get the news that Earth was destroyed and a scan proved it? I don't think you would be feeling that great everyone u knew is dead your home world destroyed.
I figured they had flown into a Black Hole, and from their perspective, time was stretched into infinity. Thereby meaning that they were trapped in oblivion for eternity.
And then a fish swam past and we got a much happier ending. Though not altogether unsatisfying.
LOL I know. I too was going OMFG when no stars were visible. I've read too much Stephen Baxter that my first thought was "heat death". The fact that it turned out to be the bottom of the ocean was actually kind of a good twist for me though.
shareYeah, good ending, I thought they would still be at earth with some sort of sick scientific experiment, or at the new planet, which happened to be true. Great movie.
"Light up the darkness..."
I thought it was going to be like that 90's or early 2000 movie, where they are trapped in some submarine or space ship thing underwater and they manage to escape and live happy lives. But at the end it cuts back to under the water and you see they are actually all still stuck there, they just think they have gotten out because of craziness, or some sort of joint hallucination.
So yeah I thought it was going to show them still stuck on the space ship and because of pandorum they just believe they have gotten out.
But I liked this ending. Though I wonder if that child alien is going to be popping up in a pod any time soon. Well I guess its guaranteed at least one will figure out a way, since the ship will take a while to flood.
"Sphere"
... forgot about that show. It was good !
"Forgiveness is between them and god. It's my job to arrange the meeting."
Is that the film I am thinking of? If so I got the ending to the movie totally wrong. lol. I have been looking for the name to it for years but thats all I can remember and its general creepy atmosphere. I must have interpreted it wrong since I was only little when I saw it and it feaked me out and confused me. Or its another movie....e_e
shareThe thing is, when it comes to UNIVERSE-scale thinking, it turns out that the MAJORITY of space wouldn't have visible stars from any random viewpoint, unless you're still in a galaxy... That "star field" that we always see out the windows of spaceships isn't what most of the universe is like, in reality.
That's why at the ending, I thought maybe they traveled far outside the galaxy, because supposedly that's what the "view" looks like in most of the universe... Unless you're lucky enough to be near a galaxy or nebula (or any of the visible matter that makes up some crazy-low amount of total space, like 2 or 3 percent of it).
But anyway, yeah, I loved the ending too. And I thought this was one of the best sci-fi-horror movies I've seen in years. I'm really looking forward to more of this guy's writing.
I like the ending. It was a bleak movie from the beginning so to see at the end some hope was good. It's open ended, because you don't know what is ahead for the survivors.
shareits been trillions of years..all the stars have died or space has expanded to the point everything is outside of our visible universe
This film made me think of the TV show Red Dwarf, which was what made me guess that they'd been travelling for thousands (if not millions) of years and that had caused the mutations...like Cat, only nastier and not as fashion=conscious :) Then they copped out with the accelerant enzyme adapter thingy. Still thought it was a bloody great film, though.
Wouldn't say it was a cop out. Still took nearly a thousand years, which is pretty long.
shareBut that's like an eye=blink in evolutionary terms...I dunno, that enzyme part just didn't sit particularly well with me...like why would they need it in the first place if Tanis was basically identical to Earth? But it certainly didn't ruin a film which, IMHO, is one of the only "legitimate heirs" of "Alien".
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