the same story over and over again? Or do you want to see variations on stories and stories told in a different way?
And why is it that almost every time a story does not involve a white male in the lead it has to be a "woke" show?
I saw this more as how the lead character knew she had special skills and wanted to use them and be a warrior.
Well, me personally, what I'd really like at this point would be some new stories.
Predator was a great movie, I'm fairly certain we can all agree on that much; but is there really that much to its central concept, that might justify sequel after sequel 35 years after the fact?
the only thing great about this movie was the Predator kills, the rest of it was stupid. also the Predator can kill a 1500 pound bear and 50 white men and male Indians but not a 16 yr old native girl. she is obviously too strong and smart to be killed.
shareI just see the people who are always calling everything woke as being unintelligent and having very little imagination. There is no way to tell a great story without having some sort of messaging in it.. The message in this movie was for the young woman to always believe in herself and never give up.. Now how in the hell can someone have a problem with that?
shareHmmm, so if the message is (kinda) ok the you are allowed to convey that message IN ANY way??
Let's say that I have a good, important message for you. And I come to your place, I beat you to a pulp, I pee on your face and shit in your mouth and then I give you the message.
Hey, was a great message, so it doesn't matter how it's transmitted, right? No, the way that message is transmitted is a LOT more important than the message.
And even in this movie ... are you sure that's the message? Because her "never giving up" led to all the warriors in her tribe being killed, her brother being killed and her tribe being wiped.
Is that the message?? Never give up and you will kill EVERYONE around you????
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All the white people were stupid and bad.
The natives were deep and good.
Even just when it came to hunting it was shown as bad when done by the whites but then respectful and "just about survival" when done by the natives.
Had they completely reversed it people would have called it racist
this...
shareFunny then why was Captain Phillips not labeled racist? That had black people as the villains. A white male hero. So um?
shareSeriously???? That was a real life event!! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
shareOkay No Country For Old Men has a Spanish actor playing a villain Javier Bardem. Denzel Washington plays a villain in Training Day. The white male is the hero. Were those films called racist?
shareIts all the whites as a group versus all the natives, not just couple of characters.
There was a big difference in how the GROUPS were presented as a whole.
And not a chance in hell it was a coincidence.
So you can't do this portrayal without it being racist?
shareIts just obvious that the film makers are sending a message with it.
I didn't call it racist though. But it's preachy and annoying.
No I think people have a hair trigger. I think anytime something doesn't suit your political ideology or slightly goes against it you make a mountain out of a molehill.
shareSome maybe.
I'm fine with the movie having mostly native characters and a female lead.
Not everybody that dislikes identity politics is some ultra conservative.
There's no use explaining it to you as these topics have been discussed to infinity. If you don't get it by now, or refuse to believe it, or refuse to acknowledge it, then you never will no matter how many times it's explained.
shareI know you have problems understanding things.
Let me spell it out for you: in those movies them being the villain had NOTHING to do with the skin color. Because it was just one individual.
But when you a have ALL members of a certain group painted as evil, specially in contrast with the other group ... do you get where I'm going???
Or is it too hard?
Oh it didn't? So now we ignore coincidences but on the other side we don't. How convenient.
shareWhen you have ALL from a group portrayed in the same way it's NOT a coincidence anymore. It's intended.
As a counter to your point: Paul (Dr Dre) in Training Day (a black guy) is not portrayed as a villain.
Nope I disagree.
Also Dr Dre was a crooked cop. You just buried yourself further. He tells Alonzo we need to just kill your boy right now and say Roger got him coming through the door. He is a villain. He helps Alonzo cover things up. So no wrong. He just isn't the main villain but he is an antagonist of some kind. That's like claiming Steven from Django Unchained isn't a villain simply because isn't the main like Calvin Candie was.
Hmm, I might have to watch the movie again. lol
And there was NO corrupt white cop? Or is the whole team (Tim lol, Jeff, etc) was corrupt, regardless of the skin color???
The point is: the villains were cops, not blacks or whites. Do you GET IT?
Yeah you do need to watch the movie again.
Not just the cops. There were also the mexican gangsters that assaulted Jake. So um cops were the only villains? I took you off ignore just to put you in your place again. Anyway you clearly lack cinematic knowledge get off this board.
No you ...
My point is that the movie doesn't portray just Denzel as a villain. Or just blacks. The white cops in that team were as corrupt and bad as the others.
And you just proved me right. That the movie was NOT about race.
THANKS!!!
Put me back on ignore, I find it too annoying to explain to you basic things. Again and AGAIN.
Lol nice reply. Clearly you haven't watched the film in a while.
It does portray Denzel as a villain. He is the main villain... Wrong I've heard people call Django unchained racist and they neglect Samuel l Jackson's character being a villain as well.
So um nope you failed again lol. Go ahead and break the rules again you will be reported if you do.
We are talking about a certain movie.
Again, the cops are corrupt regardless of skin color. It's not like "white cops are good black cops are bad".
As I said: "But when you a have ALL members of a certain (racial) group painted as evil, specially in contrast with the other (racial) group ... do you get where I'm going???"
There was no "whites are good, blacks are bad" in Training Day.
I don't expect you to understand anyway. You cannot or you don't want to ... it's the same result.
And you conveniently ignored the gangsters. All of which were not white.
If this was flipped a person like you would call it racist.
Do you see me calling any movie about the Mafia, like the Godfather or Scarface, racist??
Damn boy, you are sooo wrong. And you keep digging yourself in a hole of stupid arguments
Do you see me calling a film like training day racist? This door swings both ways.
shareDid you already forget what you said???
"If this was flipped a person like you would call it racist."
You are so useless that it's crazy.
Go away troll.
Lol and you would. You just said that about godfather to save face. I don't believe you.
shareHahaha, so you think I call Godfather and Scarface racist because the lead and almost all white characters are white??
Buahahahahahaha,
Thanks little troll, you made me laugh like crazy, appreciate it :D
No because it portrays powerful white males, your favorite. If it ain't white it ain't right.
shareExactly.. The whiners just don't ever want to see white people playing the villain.. Have you ever seen the movie "Colors" about gangs in LA in the 1980's.. There isn't one single law abiding Black man in that entire movie.. They are all portrayed as murdering scumbags that all the hero white cops have to go out and stop.. Nobody was calling that movie racist. It was just called a good movie that dealt with the gang problem in L.A. The people always whining about wokeness simply never want to see a white man portrayed as a bad guy ever.. It gets their feelings hurt.
sharePreach! Yep it's quite sad isn't it?
shareMichael Myers and Laurie Strode are about to go at it for like the 9th time and you are asking if people want the same story over and over?
shareI agree with you. Naru is depicted as being an excellent medicine woman, master of a finely trained dog, great at tracking on a hunt and skilled with her throwing hatchet. The girl may not have seen warfare but she could clearly live off the land and was looked at as being outside of her traditional role in the village because she was bold. ‘The Boys’ of her clan are tougher and faster but she has wits to get her through, plus she’s a pretty good fighter…this is not ‘woke,’ just dimensions of her interesting, likable character.
Naru defeating a Predator is no more implausible that Arnie or Glover defeating one. A Predator could likely wipe out an entire village but then we’d have no movie.
When I hear the usual ‘WOKE’ shouted on a board I watch and see for myself. This was simply a fun sci-fi/horror adventure featuring a young Woman and it was very good.
*btw…white male here, I had NO problem with the character, I liked Naru.
Naru defeating a Predator is no more implausible that Arnie or Glover defeating one. A Predator could likely wipe out an entire village but then we’d have no movie.
I’d apologize that you take sci-fi/action/adventure movies so seriously but that sounds like your problem and your parent’s fault😄
shareNo, it's called consistency, suspension of disbelief and good writing, none of which were present in the film.
As I said, you millennials are so used to being spoonfed tripe you can't even identify basic writing inconsistency in the story (such as Naru being caught in a bear trap (which breaks the bone) yet being able to fight and run just fine on her leg a day later).
That's not taking movies too seriously, it's just utilizing a base level of intelligence... something people even with double digit IQs used to be able to do, but it's quite telling when today's generation can't even do that.
Your lack of intelligence is an embarrassment…I’m NO ‘millennial’ you goofball…cocaine?
Not even once.
Catch up.
Cry to your Mom or Dad about your failures (if they haven’t already abandoned you…who could blame them really!?!)
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the same story over and over again? Or do you want to see variations on stories and stories told in a different way?
Her trap that killed the Predator was by no means set up the same way that Arnolds was.. You must not have seen the movie..
shareI said it was identical in setup, not in execution; ergo, Arnold luring the Predator into his trap, the same as she led the Predator into her trap, even her cringe-worthy line of "do it" to mimic when Arnold had the Predator close to falling for his trap (only in her case the line carried zero weight).
It was basically a bad facsimile of the original, except the Predator in Prey killed itself because somehow Naru understood its technology better than it did due to her wahmen powers.
What a fake gaslighting argument...jeez "If it has a male lead it's the same story reeeee..." Misandric Wokesters ruined modern Cinema and Society in general
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