Dude...do a Google search.
My guess is that you have...because you're saying the same stuff I've already read, but leaving out the parts that directly contradict your bullshit.
I'm not here wasting my time trying to win a fucken argument dude, you know what you read. Those are anomalies, absolutely not the norm, and only happen when there's other shit going on.
What you say goes against evolution itself. Mothers in nature are fiercely protective of their young because that's how the species is built from the ground up...to protect their progeny. Wtf are you trying to win here? You mention below that you've convinced someone to stop advocating for Joe on account of the horrendous shit he's done, but are up here arguing that him taking away brand new cubs from a Tigress is actually no big deal, "Cause they don't really care anyway, dude. Its not like they're human".
Wtf are you talking about, do you even know? Talking about idiots who watch Disney, etc I'm not trying to be a know it all, I seriously wasn't expecting someone to argue that mother cats couldn't give a shit if their cubs were taken from them or not, when EVERY INDICATION from what I've ever known about animals throughout my lifetime points the exact opposite direction.
How about this. You ever have a pet that's given birth? You ever try taking one of their newborns away? Because I'm going on fifty years old, have been in that situation a number of times and every. damn. time. the mother gets anxious...agitated, even. If their other kittens are feeding, that cat will still start to get up and nose over to its kitten you've separated until you put it back.
Those kitten were JUST born. It seemed wrong to pull them away so quickly, unnatural....you want to believe the Mom din't give a shit on account of not being a human? There you go...only people are protective of their young, you're fucking brilliant, I just got confused for a second thinking about evolution, science and stuff.
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gsmith9072 (454)
5 years ago
No, YOU do a Google search:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/3/140328-sloth-bear-zoo-infanticide-chimps-bonobos-animals/
https://www.livescience.com/2053-animals-eat-offspring.html
And quit making up what I said. I said, the mother didn't seem to notice or care, and that SOMETIMES animals eat their own offspring. Both are undeniably true. Animals eating their own young, called "filial infanticide" is a frequent enough occurrence that is even theorized to be a selective pressure that is a part of evolution. It is often seen as an 'anomaly' or that something is wrong with the animal, and who thinks that? HUMANS. Because we find it so shocking and awful, we think only a very sick animal would do it. Some theories state that perhaps the young is sick. So tell me, if your baby was sick, WOULD YOU KILL AND EAT YOUR BABY? Would you look at your child and think, "hmm, I think it's not in perfect health, guess that's extra nutrition for me!" While most animals do not do this, it shows the mentality of animals. They follow some hardwired instincts and do not have the same awareness of their babies that humans do. They have a 'psychopathic' relationship with their babies; sure, they'll often raise them, but under the right conditions, they will also kill them and I bet it doesn't cause them an ounce of trauma. Animals instinctively protect their babies because they have their maternal instincts 'activated'. Remove the baby, and I bet they'll forget it existed. Hence why some can eat their babies without a second thought. Hence why Joe removing the cubs while the tiger wasn't paying attention elicited no response. The mother most likely would have been far more upset if you removed them while it was in the process of caring for them, with its maternal instincts in full force. You think it was wrong to pull them away quickly, but waiting likely would have made the tiger more upset. There is an issue with the baby not getting colostrum, however.
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gsmith9072 (454)
5 years ago
Furthermore, male lions killing female lion's babies despite their protest and then simply mating with the brute that caused them that anguish just shows how NON-ATTACHED animals are in comparison to humans.
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