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"Tiger King" Joe Exotic Once Got BIG MAD About Not Being Able To Say The N-Word

posted 5 years ago by TMC-4 (20181)
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https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/tiger-king-joe-exotic-once-got-big-mad-about-not-being-able-to-say-the-n-word.3371819/

https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/31/tiger-king-star-joe-exotic-lost-footage-pissed-he-cant-say-n-word/

Joe Exotic has bitched and moaned about lots of things but this rant may -- or may not -- shock you the most ... he was once pissed he couldn't use the n-word. Still love him, Cardi B?!

Some old footage from 2015 resurfaced showing the "Tiger King" star complaining ... "What's going on in this country? It's absolutely pathetic. I can't say the n-word but you can get on YouTube and watch any black man's video and they're calling each other the n-word. What the hell?"

Joe went on to theorize, "Is this discrimination? I'm white, I can't say the n-word and they can?" The footage appears to be from his old online reality series "Joe Exotic TV" but it's only now hitting the fan ... due to the popularity of the Netflix documentary.

Joe Exotic, of course, is the tiger breeder featured in the wildly popular Netflix docuseries "Tiger King." The former owner of a once-popular zoo in Oklahoma has been behind bars since he was found guilty in a 2019 murder-for-hire plot.

He recently filed a lawsuit claiming there's a huge conspiracy behind him getting locked up. Cardi B vowed to start a GoFundMe to help free Joe Exotic. She has since said she was just kidding about the GoFundMe but added she still loves him.

Awkward?

[–] TimMC (9143) 5 years ago

When one person can do something and another person cannot do that same thing and the reason for that is race it is absolutely by definition and without any doubt or argument RACISM.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Of course it is. And that is the most hypocritical thing about liberals. They push the discrimination like that.... Another area where they do that is with gay slurs. If a straight person calls a gay person a fag, homo or any other slur you could think of then they are labeled as homophobic, but if gays can freely uses those same terms when talking about each other. Explain that one, it's just like the n-word. If a word is so bad that you can't use it then no one gets an exemption to use it but for some twisted reason liberals all seem to think that those rules should always have exemptions. Totally fucked up way of looking at the world.

[–] Jehosaphet (1063) 5 years ago

You guys really need this shit spelled out for you? Are you really this dense?
Yes, without any context, you guys are absolutely spot on, absolutely correct. But things have context...historical or otherwise. And with context, no...white guys can't go around calling black people "niggers". Jesus criminy, this really has to be stated?

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Why not? If a black man can call a black man nigger than any man can call a black man nigger. The "historical context" argument if shit, no one alive today has ever had blacks as slaves and no blacks alive were ever slaves. So there is no historical context to deal with it is history for everyone, the same fucking history. So either everyone can say nigger or no one. You can't have it both ways.

[–] Jehosaphet (1063) 5 years ago

The historical context argument is shit, huh? Well there you have it, I guess. I had no idea!
Lol its not about being a slave owner, its about the use of the word as its been used throughout history. When used by white people, its been...not just a derogatory descriptor, but a hateful, belittling..."you're less than human" descriptor. That's its history...there's a lot of pain associated with that word.
When black people call each other that, they use the term "nigga", as a means of conveying brotherhood, a shared past experience...whatever. Personally, I don't care...it doesn't bother me, I couldn't care less. Whatever sociological/psychological reasoning they took that word as their own, that's none of my concern.

Which begs the question...why is it yours? What does their use of the word...how does that impact you, how does that affect your life in even the most SLIGHTEST of ways? How is it that you have a dog in the fight here? What do you have to win or lose?
I'll give you a hint: absolutely nothing. This issue affects you/your life in zero ways. The same can't be said for black people...is the thing.

Regardless, you can't just pretend stuff is different than the way it is in order to make your point. You can't ignore history and historical context to pretend you have one. And no, it may be a shared history, but there's a difference between that and the "same" history...because the history of black people in this country is far different than the history of white people.

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 5 years ago

Your issue is ignorance and lack of context. You assume white people can't use the word. You can use any word you want except for fire or bomb in a theater or airport. What you're really complaining about is the social backlash you get from saying the n word.

The fact of the matter is there are white people that are allowed to use the N word among black people if they are part of the same click. You assume it never happens because you aren't familiar with seeing white people bond with black people (who frequent the n word) to that extent. The typical white person who claims "I have black friends" is either talking about friends that don't use the word, or they do use it but are merely acquaintances that don't view the white person as a genuine friend.

The reason white people tend to receive social backlash from using the n word is because they are using it in a different way than black people. And any white person who whines that they can't say it is basically admitting they want to use it incorrectly without the social stigma. Why is that so important to you? Makes one wonder.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Your first mistake is assuming I'm white. I'm not white. I hate hypocrisy and that is what I see when groups try to own a word and decide who can and can't use it. Pretty fucking simple really. To me a word only has the power people give it.

[–] ultravioletx (10237) 5 years ago

Lol, I didn't even call you white. I said you assumed white people can't use it under any circumstance. Joe is white, so that statement applies here. It's still incorrect though. There are white people who use it with black friends. It's just a rarity to have white people and black people that closely associated together in an environment that heavily uses the n word.

The n word is also becoming more prevalent in Hispanic communities.

Every person that complains they cannot use the word has never shown a proper context in which they should be able to use it but cannot.

[–] Jehosaphet (1063) 5 years ago

Never thought of it that way. Just.."So...when do you want to be able to use that word? In what scenario?"
Yeah that's a stumper =D

[–] Jehosaphet (1063) 5 years ago

There it is...very well said. Wow.

[–] Jehosaphet (1063) 5 years ago

No, white people not being able to run around calling black people "niggers" is not racism lol
"without any doubt or argument"
Your absolution here is as ridiculous as your statement.

[–] necramonium (224) 5 years ago

There is a double standard though, i think both races should not be allowed to use the word.

[–] Jehosaphet (1063) 5 years ago

Yes those black people have had it far too good for too long, damnit!
Lol seriously though, you know what I think is funny?
I get that we all had nothing to do with their history of enslavement...but looking at it from an objective, history-based perspective.

White people held them captive for hundreds of years as...basically animals. Working dawn til dusk, year after year, generation after generation...they had a large part, arguably even the largest part in building this country up from the colonies that it started as. Children separated from parents, wives from husbands, the abuse...we did this to millions of people for hundreds of years...because they weren't human...they were just "niggers".

And we're 50+ years past them getting equal rights, and white people are up in arms about not being able to call them "niggers"...because of...some abstract concept of equality, they're not really sure, but they know that black people have taken use of the word, and damnit, its not fair that they can't use it too then. "Cause that's racist!"

I don't know man...personally? I'd much rather just continue not giving a shit about stuff that doesn't affect me rather than have my ancestors trade places with theirs...and all I get out of the deal is a word I can use that others can't. That ends up pissing off whitey anyhow. My ancestors suffered for hundreds of years and they're all pissed I'm using a word that they can't ...voicing their outrage on something that don't affect them the least bit from the comfort of their couches. Man, fuck whitey! lol

[–] gregg325 (216) 5 years ago

White people don't get upset so much that they can't use the word but more about the double standard that one select race can use the word but another cannot. That itself is racist and there isn't any argument against that. Context should also matter. If a white person says "whats up nigga" are you really going to be outraged over that when we see black people say the same thing? To me it just feels like black people want to make these rules simply to control white people. Its like this weird grudge they hold against white people because of what their ancestors did hundreds of years ago.

[–] Jehosaphet (1063) 5 years ago

I get what you're saying...and I read an article way back that I wish I could relay its point as well as that author did.
But it was about reverse racism, people who feel discriminated against by black people. The argument was that there's no such thing as reverse racism.
In this country, white people hold the power...there's no real arguing that. And in a society where one group holds all the power, its virtually impossible for a group that isn't in power to discriminate against the group that does. Discrimination suggests adverse ramifications for being black, Asian, whatever, but there are no adverse ramifications for white people...just some people who've decided its "not fair" to not be able to use a word. Again, it has no affect on you or your life in any way whatsoever, so you're feeling like black people have made up rules to "control" white people doesn't exactly seem reasonable.

As for "there's no argument against it being racist", see Ultravioletx's response above to Thomas. In what context are you unable to use the word that you'd like to, but are being prohibited?

Or what about a couple Jews who refer to each other as "Kikes". If you're neither Jewish nor a friend of either of these two and call one of them a "Kike" yourself, what are they going to think of you? Because they're using it in a friendly context, while, just by virtue of you NOT being a Jew, the word has immediate hateful connotations. So, say you choose not to say it. Would this make you a victim of racism....or....just make you not an asshole? Lol because I think its absolutely the latter.

[–] gregg325 (216) 5 years ago

And in a society where one group holds all the power, its virtually impossible for a group that isn't in power to discriminate against the group that does.

Except that isn't what discrimination means. Discrimination isn't about power. Its about treating another person unfairly. Telling a white person what they can and can't say is discrimination and its also being racist since you are giving 2 different races 2 different sets of rules.

Also this is BS lol

there are no adverse ramifications for white people

With how everyone is so PC today and shout racism at every turn you need to be so careful on what you say as a white person. Say the wrong thing and you're getting cancelled. So I strongly disagree that there are no ramifications for white people.

Look I don't have an issue if black people want to be dropping n bombs at each other for whatever reason but don't go getting mad at white people who say it in the same context. Its straight up hypocritical. The word is either racist or its not and if it is then there should be no reason anyone should be using the word.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

That is definitely not racism. You can argue it's a double standard, censorship or puritanism, but it is clearly not racism.

[–] Knish (1721) 5 years ago

He's right though.

[–] TMC-4 (20181) 5 years ago

Joe Exotic is 'categorically racist' and 'unsettling' examples of his bigotry were left out of the show, the directors of Netflix's Tiger King claim

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8184659/Tiger-King-directors-brand-Joe-Exotic-categorical-racist.html

[–] TheArgentinian (7109) 5 years ago

Pathetic how they whitewashed his image.

[–] AP (5288) 5 years ago

Considering all the shit he did, wanting to say the n-word is pretty much at the bottom of the list.