Dune has gone WOKE


Let's examine the evidence:

- Liet, one of the most interesting characters in the novel (and my favorite one), the man that truly fights for the planet and its people... has been upgraded to, wait for it... you guessed? Yeap, a black woman πŸ˜„

- Lady Jessica is now... "a warrior priestess". They have taken the Bene Gesserit and transformed them in modern empowered super-ninjas-warriors. πŸ˜„

- Diversity rules! lots of blacks! yaiii! Of course, that doesn't apply to bad guys. The villains are all of them white males without exception. Did you have any doubt?

- In the promotion of the movie, the director has stated that he's very feminist. Brace yourself.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/04/behold-dune-an-exclusive-look-at-timothee-chalamet-zendaya-oscar-isaac

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Zendaya. What the fuck were they thinking? What a bunch of dumbasses. She has no charisma and no acting skills. The trailer was as boring as she is.

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I'm tired of the media pushing her down our throats. They trying so hard to make her the next it girl. She does nothing for me as an actress.

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YEAH...AS AN ACTRESS...CREEPER.

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Would you change Paul's skin color for the film? After all he and his legions "killed sixty-one billion, sterilized ninety planets, completely demoralized five hundred others .... wiped out the followers of forty religions". Paul Atreides is clearly the bad guy in the books.

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Hnnn, Paul? Or Leto?

I doubt Paul did any of that.

And Leto was not a bad guy, more like a guy that realized that the Golden Path (that Paul refused to walk) is the only way out of total extinction.

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Read the books. It is a direct quote from Dune Messiah.

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+ There is an interview with the cast members and what the actress says about her character, I think, is correct. It really doesn't matter what sex Liet is.
There might be an issue with the Imperial Planetologist doctor Kynes being female but not with Liet. The actress seems very capable and intelligent and if she succeeds to bring Liet's passion, energy and arrogance to the screen I don't really see a problem with the sex switch.

+ Lady Jessica is quite deadly when it is needed in the books.

In any case my only problem so far is Zendaya. She is a terrible actress and it is quite apparent from the same interview that she is dumb AF.

As for director's feminism, while the Imperial society is very much patriarchal women do play very important role in the books and there are several amazing and complex female characters.

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It really doesn't matter what sex Liet is.

Liet/KynesΒΉ is clearly a male character in the novel. It doesn't make any sense as a female, the same way the Reverend Mother wouldn't make any sense as a male. Some characters have a psychology that wouldn't make sense in the opposite gender. Liet/Kynes is one of them.

Lady Jessica is quite deadly when it is needed in the books

Lady Jessica (and the Bene Gesserit in general) can be extremely deadly if necessary in the books. But they are not the usual "empowered badass kicking ass independent super-mary sue" modern Hollywood template that they seem to have applied to her. Bene Gesserit only use their fighting skills as a (very) last resource.

As for director's feminism, while the Imperial society is very much patriarchal women do play very important role in the books and there are several amazing and complex female characters.

Well, that's the point. The more feminist the director, the less amazing and complex female character are gonna be. Modern feminism is about repetitive aseptic perfect female characters, and males that look mostly like violent pseudo-nazis or cucks (provided they're white, of course).

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ΒΉ It's not a spoiler. You already have the same actress playing both of them in iMDB cast.

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"Liet/KynesΒΉ is clearly a male character in the novel. It doesn't make any sense as a female, the same way the Reverend Mother wouldn't make any sense as a male. Some characters have a psychology that wouldn't make sense in the opposite gender. Liet/Kynes is one of them."

I don't think that's true.
Liet is like an opposite of the Reverend Mother. She is the guardian of the past, and Liet is the bringer of the future.
His father was the key to the transformation of the Fremen but if he had a daughter instead of a son I'm not convinced it would have changed anything.

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Liet/Kynes is basically a scientist that is obsessed with the project of terraforming the planet and devotes his life to that project.

Femwashing him is like adapting the Frankestein novel and femwashing (and blackwashing) Victor Frankestein. It makes no sense.

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Buddy, there is no point of fighting every battle. Let's save it for really important ones.

In terms of the book's narrative Liet/Kynes is a way-station - someone who points Paul to the path to his destiny. An analogue of a wiseman\witch in a medieval romance, if you will. It's really not that important if it's a man or a woman.

I also might point that discovering that Liet is a woman will be a further proof to Atreides forces that they are dealing with something very strange and new on Arrakis.

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In terms of the book's narrative Liet/Kynes is a way-station - someone who points Paul to the path to his destiny.

Liet/Kynes is much more than that. One of the reasons why Dune is such a great novel is that every secondary character has its own (meaningful) plotline. You could write a spin-off novel about the story of Jessica and Leto Atreides, or about the story of Dr.Yueh and his wife, or about Kynes and the terraforming of Arrakis, or you could focus the novel in Stilgar or Hawat and it'd work just fine.

I also might point that discovering that Liet is a woman will be a further proof to Atreides forces that they are dealing with something very strange and new on Arrakis.

Well, I agree with that. They'll be discovering something new, strange and scary in Arrakis: wokeness.

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>Buddy, there is no point of fighting every battle. Let's save it for really important ones.

But there is. The entire point is to not give the crazies an inch or they will take a mile.

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Ok, white supremacist.

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Ok, if you're gonna call me "white supremacist", the least you can do is define the term. What is "white supremacism"? (according to you, in this case).

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Someone who only wants to see white people in movies like the "good old days".

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Someone who only wants to see white people in movies like the "good old days".

I see. The problem is that this definition contradicts with me loving Asian movies and series, that usually don't include many white people.

Since I imagine you don't wanna give up calling me a "white supremacist", I guess you need to rework your definition. Be my guest.

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Dang... They can't even have one character in a book played by a black person without you insufferable rejects calling the whole thing woke.

- Lady Jessica is now... "a warrior priestess". They have taken the Bene Gesserit and transformed them in modern empowered super-ninjas-warriors. πŸ˜„
Where do you think Prana bindu comes from in the books?

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looks meh

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Even the very racist Idris Elba once said it was bad to exclude blacks from villain roles.

It's actually racist to exclude blacks from the ranks of villains.

Sometimes, very often actually, the villain is the best role.

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"Sometimes, very often actually, the villain is the best role."

Hear hear!!!

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In the book Stilgar admitted that Jessica could best him in single combat, but he warned her not to call him out as his people would not follow her. So you have a problem with strong women?

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