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More realistic than reality itself, funnier than comedy itself ...

posted 3 years ago by TrentnQuarantino (9187)
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Absolutely terrifying because it is so true.

Hits on all cylinders, a great movie 10/10

[–] Spiffy666 (400) 3 years ago

Nah. Ham-handed. Good satire walks a fine line between clever and preachy, and this one crossed it.

The only consistently funny thing was JLaw obsessing over the General charging them for snacks.

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

Yeah ... keep looking down Spiff.

[–] Spiffy666 (400) 3 years ago

LOL. Too bad you couldn't just accept criticism of a movie and not try to turn it into something personal. Swing and a miss.

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

You didn't criticize though.
Ham-handed, preachy ... how?
There is implicit Right-wing defensiveness in your comment ... that to your credit you are articulate enough to hide.

[–] Spiffy666 (400) 3 years ago

No there isn't. I criticized a movie. Shame you couldn't (and apparently still can't) wrap your head around that.

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

Just as much of a shame that you won't admit to your biases.

[–] Spiffy666 (400) 3 years ago

LOL. Clueless.

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

You have less clues than I.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

He can only see his own feet. Leave him be.

[–] dilligaf (312) 3 years ago

How did it cross it? Thought it was spot on in so many ways

[–] TearofLys (2653) 3 years ago

Agree. It encapsulates how blissfully ignorant I perceive modern Democrats to be, but I am also terrified by the revelation as they view me the same way.

The only difference is, the data and the science is on our side at every turn. That is why every "conspiracy theory" from the Russia Hoax to the Vaccine scam, turned out to be true.

To this day, they refuse to even acknowledge natural immunity (which is far better than any protection you can get through a needle and which most Americans already have. Why?) Because, just maybe, it would undermine their vaccine grift? Is it any coincidence that most politicians in Washington are invested in Pharmaceutical companies that develop Covid "vaccines" and have made tens of billions over the last year and a half?

WE ARE ALL BEING PLAYED.

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

Ref. above advice to Spiffy

[–] TearofLys (2653) 3 years ago

Yes, I have my biases, as we all do. However, I am a man of science, and have a reverence for truth that most don't, and my biases must work around that fundamental reverence.

Some, perhaps even most, will believe any fucking thing, no matter how illogical it is.

[–] dilligaf (312) 3 years ago

This is funnier than the movie

[–] Strazdas (2472) 3 years ago

Sars-Cov-2 is a novel coronavirus. There is no such thing as natural immunity for novel viruses. Thats what makes them novel. There is nothing to acknowledge. As a self proclaimed "man of science" you should have known that.

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

Hahaha, after all this time and all the blabbering from these people can you believe that some people just do not understand this, and probably never will?

[–] TearofLys (2653) 3 years ago

Ditto for you. You are talking about things you know nothing about. See my response to Strazdas.

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

I'd reply to you, but I don't talk to idiots, especially rude ones who cannot discuss logically.

[–] TearofLys (2653) 3 years ago

I am all about logic. Use it, and I will speak to you cordially. I have no patience for idiotic statements.

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

> I have no patience for idiotic statements.

Then depression and suicide are probably in your future. You keep making the same claims and the same statement ... is that not idiotic?

[–] asom (6847) 3 years ago

To you too.

DO YOU KNOW what natural immunity is???

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

Why do you think natural immunity even enters into the question of how to massively respond to a novel deadly virus?

[–] asom (6847) 3 years ago

Because it doesn't matter how novelty is the virus.

You get natural immunity AFTER you get the virus. For you the virus, before acquiring immunity, is a novelty.

I think that you guys understand by "natural immunity" innate immunity conferred by previous generations being infected with the virus. Which is NOT what natural immunity is although I've seen the innate immunity called "natural immunity" sometimes.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/natural-immunity-overview
"Natural immunity happens after you get infected by a germ and your immune system responds by making antibodies to it. The infection could make you sick. But if you’re exposed to that germ in the future, your body’s defenses spot it and fight back with antibodies. This makes you less likely to get infected again."

There are two types of active immunity: natural and vaccine-induced.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/immunity-types.htm

"Natural immunity is acquired from exposure to the disease organism through infection with the actual disease.
Vaccine-induced immunity is acquired through the introduction of a killed or weakened form of the disease organism through vaccination."

And now we have the "fake immunity" induced by mRNA vaccines :D :P

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

> You get natural immunity AFTER you get the virus.

If you survive, dips hit. Also, that natural immunity as you call it, is really acquired immunity, and it fades with time as well.

In the case of Covid-19, if you get the virus before the vaccine you have a many times greater probability of getting long Covid.

You are so wrapped up in stuff that you are not applying correct that you miss the entire point of what is going on.

[–] asom (6847) 3 years ago

"If you survive, dips hit." yeah, idiot, if you survive, OF COURSE. AND OF COURSE NO ONE SAID TO NOT TAKE A VACCINE IF YOU DON'T HAVE NAT IMMUNITY DIP SHIT.

"In the case of Covid-19, if you get the virus before the vaccine you have a many times greater probability of getting long Covid." NOBODY argued with that you idiot.

[–] Strazdas (2472) 3 years ago

If you get the immunity after you get the virus then its not a natural immunity but a learned response, doofus.

[–] asom (6847) 3 years ago

Natural immunity IS a learned response. The one that is not learned is the innate immunity. Some still use, out of misunderstanding, natural immunity for innate immunity.

The difference is: how you got that immunity:

Innate: genetic
Natural: by getting the virus (not artificially, get it?)
Vaccine induced: by getting a vaccine - it's a manufactured solution, artificial (NOT natural).

Got it?

Here, read:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/immunity-types.htm

"Natural immunity is acquired from exposure to the disease organism through infection with the actual disease.
Vaccine-induced immunity is acquired through the introduction of a killed or weakened form of the disease organism through vaccination."

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-natural-immunity-what-you-need-to-know

"Natural immunity is the antibody protection your body creates against a germ once you’ve been infected with it."

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/natural-immunity-overview

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html?s_cid=11714

https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/WHO-2019-nCoV-Sci_Brief-Natural_immunity-2021.1

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/968553

Then you can argue with CDC, WHO, and the full medical world on what natural immunity is since it seems that they are all wrong and you are the only one with the truth.

[–] TearofLys (2653) 3 years ago

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I don't think you realize how big of an idiot you come across to those that do. It doesn't matter if the virus is "novel", if you catch it, and your immune system beats it, you have antibodies for it and have what is known as "natural immunity". Even those idealogues at the CDC now subtly acknowledge the superiority of natural immunity over the mRNA vaccines and that is why you are seeing vax mandates being dropped around the world.

[–] asom (6847) 3 years ago

Well, I've seen a bunch of stupid democrats arguing up and down with idiotic arguments against natural immunity and the necessity to take 4 doses even if you have nat immunity.

Even worse: 4 doses against the alpha variant while I just got nat immunity against Omicron ...

[–] TearofLys (2653) 3 years ago

There is certainly a correlation between being a democrat and being an idiot, but we shouldn't paint with such a broad brush. There are some redeemable democrats out there. I am not even sure what it means to be "Republican". George W. Bush, Mitt Romney, Dick Cheney (and his demom spawn daughter) aren't my people, even though they call themselves Republicans.

The basic truth is this - natural immunity is almost always the best protection you can get against any virus, and even that scumbag Fauci has acknowledged this in the past. When you develop natural immunity, you create antibodies that map the entire surface of the virus while the vaccine only targets a specific protein, which means natural antibodies offer you better protection against variants than vaccines.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/dr-makary-says-natural-immunity-is-more-effective-then-vaccine-immunity/ar-AAMX3sM

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33948610/

These natural antibodies exist in the bloodstream for at least five years and probably for the rest of your life. Recall the study in the early 2000s that injected survivors of the Spanish Flu (which occured in 1917-1918) with the Spanish Flu. These elderly people, that haven't had spanish flu antibodies in their bloodstream for decades, created new antibodies for the deadly Spanish Flu and easily defeated it because their memory T cells in their bone marrow "remembered" what to do in case of a Spanish Flu infection

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2008/08/researchers-find-long-lived-immunity-1918-pandemic-virus

Those deadly mRNA vaccines (at least 20k have died in the last year due to the vaccine according to VAERs reporting system) can't claim anything close to that kind of protection. In fact, they want you to roll the dice with this vaccine every six months, whether you have natural immunity or not. It is insane. They are waging war against us.

[–] asom (6847) 3 years ago

Oh, I don't consider all democrats stupid. But a bunch are, and usually they eat the ideology. Just as stupid republicans are a thing as well ..

What's worse: democrats a lot of times are educated and try to justify the nonsense with some fucked up "logic".

" They are waging war against us." I wouldn't go that far. They just want the billions of $ without giving a shit about people. And it's not the first time ...

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

> There is certainly a correlation between being a democrat and being an idiot

Yeah, an INVERSE correlation.

There is not one single provable case of the vaccine causing death. Republican policies are all about killing people though.

[–] TearofLys (2653) 3 years ago

"There is not one single provable case of the vaccine causing death."

WHAT!!??? Are you familiar with the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)?

https://vaers.hhs.gov/

There are well over 20,000 deaths directly attributed to the various Covid vaccines. Keep in mind that in the past 30 years, there have only been approximately 600 deaths attributed to non-Covid vaccines. Additionally, this is a lower bound estimate, as most vaccine related deaths (which are usually heart attack or stroke) are not recorded as vaccine related. I read a study that suggested VAERS only captured 5-10% of the actual vaccine related events. If that is true, then we are talking a real vaccine death total between 200,000 and 400,000. Keep in mind, these are just deaths and doesn't include other events like debilitating strokes. A personal example, a month after receiving his second dose of the vaccine, my father in law had a min-stroke, and a couple weeks later he had a full-on stroke. Luckily, he survived, but he is wheelchairbound to this day. Now, we can't say definitively that it was the vaccine, but the timing, and the fact it has earned the moniker "clot shot", leaves me with suspicions.

That you have never even heard of VAERS should preclude you from opining on these topics, but here you are, prattling on.

[–] asom (6847) 3 years ago

"There is not one single provable case of the vaccine causing death."

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/465103/ministry-of-health-announces-third-death-linked-to-vaccine

Of course NO ONE would admit a direct cause ... even if someone would prove it that would be carefully hidden ...

This post is not against vaccines, most likely they saved more than 3 lives.

[–] Strazdas (2472) 3 years ago

If you catch it and your system beats it then it is a learned immunity, not a "natural" one. And that is already the worst case scenario because you already had the virus.

[–] TearofLys (2653) 3 years ago

You are a fucking idiot.

[–] asom (6847) 3 years ago

Are you THAT ignorant??

Do you know what natural immunity means???

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

You keep calling people names,
and presenting BS as facts,
and then questioning others about "natural immunity",
but you have nothing to say, and what you do say is misinformed nonsense that isn't true.

Here is the definition or natural, or innate immunity:

Natural immunity: Immunity that is naturally existing, Natural immunity does not require prior sensitization to an antigen. See: Innate immunity.

Innate immunity: Immunity that is naturally present and is not due to prior sensitization to an antigen from, for example, an infection or vaccination. Since it is not stimulated by specific antigens, innate immunity is generally nonspecific. It is in contrast to acquired immunity. Also called natural immunity.

Now, you tell me how you think that applies to a global pandemic?

[–] asom (6847) 3 years ago

That's NOT what natural immunity is. Your definition is misleading and that is the innate immunity.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/immunity-types.htm

"Natural immunity is acquired from exposure to the disease organism through infection with the actual disease.
Vaccine-induced immunity is acquired through the introduction of a killed or weakened form of the disease organism through vaccination."

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-natural-immunity-what-you-need-to-know

"Natural immunity is the antibody protection your body creates against a germ once you’ve been infected with it."

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/natural-immunity-overview

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html?s_cid=11714

https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/WHO-2019-nCoV-Sci_Brief-Natural_immunity-2021.1

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/968553

[–] TrentnQuarantino (9187) 3 years ago

Since you profess to believe the CDC - straight from the CDC

MYTH: The natural immunity I get from being sick with COVID-19 is better than the immunity I get from COVID-19 vaccination.

FACT: Getting a COVID-19 vaccination is a safer and more dependable way to build immunity to COVID-19 than getting sick with COVID-19.

What they fail to mention in this is that your chance of getting Long-Covid is greatly reduced if you are vaccinated before your encounter the Covid virus.

[–] asom (6847) 3 years ago

Yes idiot, as I said before: it's better to get the vaccine than to get covid IF you are in a at risk population.

But you know what's interesting in that MYTH and that FACT???

That the fact didn't invalidate the "myth", is not even related to the myth. Which myth according to all studies shows to be a fact: Natural immunity DOES last longer than the vaccines induced one - specially than the mRNA vaccines that you need to take a booster every 3 months, rofl.

"What they fail to mention in this is that your chance of getting Long-Covid is greatly reduced if you are vaccinated before your encounter the Covid virus." - that is true, but also is true that if you get covid and survive natural immunity is more protective and lasts longer than the vaccine one.

AND AGAIN SO YOU IDIOT CAN UNDERSTAND: NO ONE SAYS "Go get covid so you are protected from covid" but "IF YOU GOT COVID YOU ARE PROTECTED AND YOU DON'T NEED A VACCINE".

BTW, since you libtards LOOOVE Fauci hear him out:

https://www.gettr.com/post/p12x1yia13e

"Fauci Flashback: "The Most Potent Vaccination is Getting Infected Yourself" - true, he is not talking about covid but still ...

[–] Strazdas (2472) 3 years ago

>Yes idiot, as I said before: it's better to get the vaccine than to get covid IF you are in a at risk population.

Wrong. Its better to get the vaccine than to get Covid for all population groups.

[–] Strazdas (2472) 3 years ago

do YOU know what natural immunity means? A learned response from having the virus is not natural.

[–] asom (6847) 3 years ago

That is what is natural.

The learned response from having the virus is natural, the learned response from a vaccine is artificial.

Natural: learned/acquired from nature
Artificial: human manufactured - getting the vaccine

[–] Karl Aksel (1487) 3 years ago

The only difference is, the data and the science is on our side at every turn.

Sure, if you ignore the scientists and only listen to the fringe nutters who tell you what you want to hear. Science is determined by the mainstream of science. And you are at odds with science at every turn.