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The cinematography drove me batty


I hate the constant shaky cam, constant zooming in and out style. I would have rated the film probably 2-3 points higher here with different cinematography.


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I feel like you missed the point.

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How would you read my comment as being about getting "someone else's point"?

How would that make sense to you in context?

Maybe you missed my point, was that I hated the cinematography. It didn't work for me, aesthetically, practically, etc.


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I mean that you missed the point of the cinematography and the film itself. Did you also think there weren't enough tripod shots in the blair witch project?

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I had no problem understanding what you were referring to. I'm asking you why you're reading my initial post in this thread as commmenting on what the point of the cinematography or film overall is. It doesn't make any sense in my opinion to read my post that way. So why are you?

Do you believe something like, "If one is aware of the point of the cinematographic style, then one would like the cinematography?"


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I just don't understand why you would complain about the cinematic style of a film when that style is essential to the film. It's like complaining about sin city being in black and white.

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Okay, now we're getting somewhere. So you're assuming that I believe that the cinematographic style, exactly as it is in the film, with the constant shaky cam and zooming in and out, etc., is essential to the film?

Why?

It would make sense to me for someone reading my intial post to be able to deduce that I would not believe that that cinematographic style is essential to the film. Doesn't that make sense to you?

You might disagree with my view on that, but it would be weird to assume that I believe it is essential to the film, yet the content of my initial post was what it was.


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I don't care if you think it is or not.
The shaky cam IS essential to this film since the camera is a character within the story. The whole setup of the film requires it to be in POV. Even the title refers to the fact that the film is a "Blar Witch"- style POV film.

If you don't like POV cinematography, don't go to see a film whose entire premise is based on POV cinematography.

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I don't care if you think it is or not.
Okay, but isn't this a thread about MY opinion, MY reaction? And then it became a thread about why you'd think that my post about my opinion and my reaction to the cinematography would somehow instead be about the "point of the cinematography" or the "point of the film". That's a reading comprehension issue. It's about how you're contextualizing what you're reading, why you're contextualizing it that way, and just how and to what extent you are able to reason about what you're reading.

I do not agree that the cinematographic style, exactly as it is in the film, is essential to the film. And as I just mentioned, it wouldn't make much sense to read my initial post and assume that I would agree with that. Again, this is a reading comprehension issue.

I also do not believe that there are (objective) facts about things such as whether a particular cinematographic style is essential to a particular type of film. (And in fact, I do not believe that are (objective) facts about whether any x is essential to any F. I'm what's known as a "non-essentialist" in philosophy.)

Next, I strongly disagree that "being in POV" requires CONSTANT shaky cam to the extent that it's present in this film, or CONSTANT zooming in and out. I have no problem with "POV" cinematography in general. It would only make sense to jump to that conclusion if you believe that all POV cinematography requires shaky cam and zooming to the extent present in this film.

Here's something interesting to think about: Is there any degree to which shaking the camera and zooming in and out would not work for you as well aesthetically? Or would you like a film just as well if we rigged up a camera to a mechanical paint mixer set on high and with the zoom randomly adjusting to its extremes nonstop, with about 50% of the frames completely blurry due to this? That would be even more shakiness and zooming than Quarrantine has. Would that be even better cinematography to you?


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I'm done.

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You were done when you started responding really. Work on your reading comprehension and reasoning abilities.


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Suck it.

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Well, or stay ignorant. It's up to you I guess.


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I agree with everything Celsius is saying. He didn't miss your point, in fact you missed his by a LONGSHOT. The shaky cam IS essential to the movie, and the zoom in/out style they use is to present an intense situation. It's not like the entire movie is randomly doing these things. Each style serves its own purpose to give the film it's own feeling: something that you failed to notice.

If this kind of movie was shot on a tripod with a steady picture, the entire film would probably feel like it's staged. The zombies, the acting, the whole atmosphere would crumble. Taking out shaky camera/zoom effect would be like cutting off one of the movie's legs: it wouldn't stand strong without those features.

Just because you don't think it's a necessity to have these features in the movie doesn't mean you're right. It's okay if you personally don't like the style of the movie, we all have our likes/dislikes. But for you to act like it's the movie's fault for your lack of enjoyment is ignorant. If you don't like the shaky camera effect, then these types of movies just aren't for you.

Honestly DeezenStudies, every point that you were trying to make was a bunch of nothing. Every post of yours I read said, "Blah. Blah. Blah." And reading comprehension is my strongest quality. I can see why Celsius had stopped debating you: talking to you is like talking to a dense wall.

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I agree with Celsius and huggybizzzle. The producers went to great lengths to make this movie POV.

You try carrying around a big honkin camera while being chased by zombies, we'll see how much the camera shakes.

Sorry huggybizzzle I meant to reply to the other person's post. I'm editing my post after the fact. but I couldn't figure out how to move it so that it's a reply to his post.


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Why is the word "constant" in my first post in this thread? Any reason? What difference does it make if that word is removed?


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I feel the same.
Especially towards the end, this film starts to get on my nerves so much.
The shaky cam, the heavy breathing, the yelling and shouting, ... Plain annoying.

I've seen more such "hand-cam" movies. "The Blair Witch Project" actually was good and didn't annoy me at all.
Also "Troll Hunter" and "Cloverfield" didn't annoy me half as much as this movie did.


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OP you should win an award for how stupid your replies are in this thread. You've missed every point that one could possibly miss and still claim to understand the language.

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Shaky cam does not work. This is a reporter, not an amateur teenager. Cheap picture quality is ok, but the shakiness looks forced.

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It may sound revolutionary and a trifle old fashioned...but why not use normal cameras and camera shots so that you can at least see what is going on, the gimmick of it being a reporter and a cameraman was just so they could jump on the Blair Witch bandwagon (which itself was bloody annoying)

Having cameras jumping all over the place and blacking out and going in and out out of focus drives me nuts........FILM IT PROPERLY !!

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