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Do Not Watch This Movie (Animal Torture)


I start this topic to make everyone know that Baaria features an indecent scene where a cow gets killed FOR REAL and in a brutal way (an awl breaks the head of the animal, that is left on the floor - still alive - until it dies for bleeding), and that's why it should be boycotted.

Thanks for the attention, here are some links (unfortunately, just in italian) that proves that what I said is true.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=138838861724&ref=ts
http://www.agi.it/palermo/notizie/200910021500-cro-rt11182-baaria_enpa_chiede_ritiro_film_sgomenta_scena_uccisione_toro

Sorry if there are similar topics.

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Are you stupid? The scene you're talking abot was filmed in a slaughterhouse where they kill at the same way at least 20 animals a day!
Tornatore said that he asked the owner of the slaughterhouse to stay ther with a camera, some characters of the story and the director of photography. So what we see in the movie is only a documentary scene.

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How about torture on human beings in countries where torture is allowed? Do you consider that it's fair to film a real torture and use it for an artistic product "just because it happens every day"?

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It's stupid to continue to talk about a documentary scene that simply gives realism to a movie. Let's talk about the great movie that Tornatore realize! He made a perfect reconstruction of the place where he was born, and gave us the opportunity to dream with magic scenes, to believe in the magic of pictures, like nobidy does today.

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get over it. watch it, it's a great story and equally great film. im suprised it didnt get Italy an oscar nomination

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Mettiamola così: un tuo caro (Dio non voglia, eh) sta agonizzando per cause "naturali" e io vengo a riprenderlo per fini "artistici" o "documentaristici". Cosa ne penseresti?

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The claims you are repeating are an Internet hoax. This hoax has already been covered in the Italian press.
The spike/bolt/awl in the head to kill cattle is exactly the way it is done and most countries. In the US it is done with a bolt gun, which drives an awl into the skull of the animal.
The cow in the film was rendered unconscious by massive brain trauma -- exactly like tens of thousands of feed cattle are killed in the US, the UK and for that matter the touchy feely Scandinavian countries. The movement of the cow you saw where you claim "still alive" after the bolt was driven in are the post mortem affects, the death shiver.

How you can attempt to disparage (and slander) a film for recording something done by the tens of thousands every single day in every country in the world is beyond me.

Are you suggesting boycotts of films where ANYONE is seen eating Beef (or pork, or lamb, or chicken or fish)? If not your posting is hypocritical.

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I agree the scene made me feel a bit strange. But then I thought about how it was, when I was about 5 and animals were killed in that way (we're talking 1983). I even killed a chicken with an axe myself that time.

What I want to say simply is the following: Thinking about animals, comparing them to human beings (torture remark) is not the way of the world. I cherish your emotions, but it's also a question of spirituality. People in less developed regions (and Italy is not Rome, it is somewhat underdeveloped in some regions) have their own problems, and "humanity" for animals is not very high on their list.

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I agree that the killing scene is a little too strong and made me feel unconfortable, at the same time I think its importance has been exaggerated and I don't see it as a reason good enough to boycott the whole movie.

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I don't know if what disgusts me the most is the movie itself, with its cruel, pointless animal killing scene, or the horrendous people who support all this. Your comment, wataru20001, is simply abysmal. How do you even dare to say something like that? I'm Italian, and I'm proud to boycott Baarìa and the other Giuseppe Tornatore's movies, as animal rights are my top priority. Killing animals is always wrong, and doing it for making a movie should be forbidden, and people who do these awful things must be arrested.

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I rented this movie for the Sicilian scenery and because I love Italian movies. (I'm Italian and lived in Italy before coming back to the USA). But after reading that a scene involved the real death of an animal, I didn't even watch it. There are ways to make movies involving animals that don't involve real death. And Italy has very strict animal rights laws, strays don't get killed, not like here. No wonder he moved the location. Pathetic.

"Leave the gun. Take the canolis."

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No wonder he moved the location. Pathetic.
Yes indeed. "I am a repressed animal-killer caveman, and since I cannot slaughter a cow here, because they're too civilized, I'll just change location, somewhere where they don't give a crap about animal rights!". What a low human being. Him and his supporters.

🐺 Boycott movies that involve real animal violence (& their directors) 🐾

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0:56:47-0:56-56, in case you're wondering (UK DVD, 144 minutes).

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