orinco river. - Il y a longtemps que je t'aime (2009) Discussion

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[–] dtdbiz 16 years ago

Interesting analysis. I like it.

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[–] WillyBee 14 years ago

Yes, interesting food for thought. I think water for Juliette is more in a sense of cleansing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharsis

I don't unterstand why Capitaine Fauré talks about the unknown source of Orinoco, whereas the source was found in 1951: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orinoco

As I wrote already somewhere, without the support of her sister Juliette could have ended like Fauré. But her sister's care helped her. In this context I read about an interesting aspect of Orinoco - it's bifurcation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casiquiare_canal
Juliette passes the bifurcation with the aid of her sister and is now running another path than Fauré.

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[–] bole79 16 years ago

I think it's about freedom and suicide and it's a bit sarcastic. He says to her towards the end that he's made up his mind and decided finally to go and see the river.

"I think I'm gonna do it ... Nothing is holding me back. Nothing."

So is the statement here that obligation and responsibilities are holding some from doing themselves in?

P.S. Although water can seem free, rolling, spilling, always finding its way etc., water is also confined by gravity and containers and so on. I think it's an interesting symbol.

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[–] Adores_Movies 15 years ago

Water is also a symbol of new life, of being reborn, of baptism. Juliette's been released from prison and is beginning a new life. She is reborn. Her final words are "I'm here." She's alive.

Just to emphasize what the poster said about all the other water symbols, fountains etc.

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[–] the sphynx 15 years ago

Yes, "I'm here" is a nice ending, as Juliette had mentioned she was long known in prison as "The Absent One."

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[–] roamingbrit 14 years ago

The more I think about it the more it seems the relationship between Captain Faure and Juliette and the talk of water hold the real crux of this film, for me anyway.

Faure talks about the source of the river and that he can't find it, like he has lost his roots and can't trace them back. It seems his work has removed him from himself too much and he can't go back, he's no support and in a way has lost himself, there is no way forward. To him the only way out is to he kill himself.

Juliette on the other hand is to start with perhaps in a similar position, she's a past she can't change, and no one to relate to from her past now, but she has her sister to help her go forward. An unbiased sister who offers emotional support when all around her judge her negatively. She can find the right way to flow eventually, to her water is rebirth but to Faure the strong current is one he can't fight against to find reconciliation.

Juliette wants to find the right way to go downstream, to continue, but Faure is trying to go the other way but can't. Juliette's survival is not to fight the current, but with her sisters (who could be a raft or boat of some kind) help of sorts is to go with the flow.

It's interesting what interpretations we can all come to.

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[–] psdhart 13 years ago

Good analysis

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