Toxic, involuntarily celibate woman babies are obsessed with castrating MALE brands like the MCU, Star Wars, Star Trek, Doctor Who, The Terminator, Masters of the Universe, and Predator but men NEVER infiltrate female brands like The Hunger Games, Twilight, 50 Shades of Gray, Barbie etc. to change them into male brands. Why?
shareThat's an interesting question.
Disney princesses also, remain completely targeted for girls.
The real answer is because all of this is going on inside your head, so until you decide to let those men infiltrate the brands you deem as female, it will never change. Medication may help...
shareHow did something only going on inside my head get into the episode of South Park "Joining the Panderverse"? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29474455/
shareI don't have Paramount+ so I can't comment on something I haven't seen. However, my guess is that it was watching that there Panderverse, and other things like it, that filled your head with such conspiracy theories.
shareYou admit you have no idea what this thread is even about so piss off.
shareAnd there we go with the insults, the last resort of someone unable to engage in a coherent discussion. Why am I not surprised?
shareI know when someone with zero knowledge of the topic is just posting nonsense.
shareNo, you're ranting about the conspiracy theory du jour and resorted to insulting me rather than offer any justification for what you wrote. If you really believe that "toxic, involuntarily celibate woman babies" exist outside of whatever cartoon you watched, or whatever conspiracy you've cooked up in your feverish brain, and that they have some obsession with whatever films you have deemed "male," then please offer your reasoning. If all you can do is fire back some new insult, don't bother. We can agree to disagree.
sharePANDERVERSE TEARS INTO THESE GUYS...BUT IN A WAY THAT THE LESS INTELLIGENT AMONGST THEM THINK IT'S ON THEIR SIDE.
shareYou haven't seen it either but keep thinking the episode only criticizes "my side."
shareI HAVE SEEN IT...TWICE.
shareLMAO...YOU MIGHT BE ACTUALLY INSANE.
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Toxic Incel Woman Babies, Toxic Incel Woman Babies, Toxic Incel Woman Babies... Heroes with a grievance(?)
I would totally watch a movie called Toxic Incel Woman Babies. That sounds like a great title for a horror movie.
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Well, there's the OP's mission for the next month. Get that screenplay written... but he'll have to decide if the brand is male or female. I'll look forward to the gender reveal party!
It must be a male brand because it would involve killing people (although the Hunger Games involves killing people too). Maybe it is a female brand because it has women in it, although the women would be the villains. But it has the word babies in the title and women love babies, right?
shareWhat makes some brands male or female? There are women who like the "male brands" you listed and there are men who like the "female brands". I have never watched Doctor Who, but I saw and bought all the Twilight and 50 Shades movies.
shareIt's one of those gender mysteries that constantly elude the Alt Left like which bathroom to use.
shareyou say "what makes some brands male or female". then go on to admit there are male and female brands.. where is the confusion?
shareI put male brands and female brands in quotes. My point is that there are women who like Marvel, Star Wars, Predator, etc and men (like me) who like Twilight and 50 Shades.
shareokay... and yet there are still male and female brands.. ie one that largely appeals to one or the other. jsut like how madea is largely a black brand. it doesnt mean no white person has ever seen it.
shareLabelling films as male or female brands is overly simplistic and missing the point. A good movie is a good movie. Some men hate superhero and sci fi films. Some women hate romance films. Popular films will appeal to a diverse group of people, male and female.
shareit isnt simplistic at all. its reality.
shareNot really, no. It is just your perception based on assumptions.
shareaccurate descriptions of how a property skews. its not an assumption at all. its based off hard evidence. certain brands heavily skew with a vast vast majority of their customers being male or female. facts. saying "well 5% of the viewers were actually men!' does not change that.
shareNah.
shareokay all those marketting companies dont know wtf they are doing.. they def dont market and get products designed to appeal to certain groups including females or males...
shareYou are the only one making sense in this exchange. Anyone who’s tried to pick a movie with a group of friends knows there are stories marketed to women vs men. It doesn’t mean someone is suffering discrimination
shareimagine choosing this hill to die on and have to argue that 50 shades wasnt marketed and made for women and expendables wasnt made and marketed to men.
shareYah.
sharePopular films will appeal to a diverse group of people, male and female.
and howd that workout for this movie?
shareGET USED TO IT...THEATERS ARE DEATH SPIRALING...ONLY MAJOR POP CULTURE BLASTS LIKE BARBIE WILL STAND A CHANCE GOING FORWARD.
shareWell, it didn't appeal to its intended audience -- which was everyone. I have no idea -- and neither do you -- what the gender breakdown looks like... but it's irrelevant to who the film was targeted at.
shareyes we do....
https://deadline.com/2023/11/box-office-the-marvels-1235599363/
"Other diagnostics on The Marvels: 65% male leaning, with 45% men over 25, 22% women over 25 (giving it the best grades at 82%), men under 25 at 20%, and women under 25 at 14%. Biggest demo was 25-34 at 33%. Diversity demos were 36% Caucasian, 27% Latino and Hispanic, 17% Black, and 14% Asian. The Marvels secured all of the PLF screens and IMAX, which rep 38% of the weekend’s take. Imax reports that $4.5M was made in their auditoriums. "
if you target everyone, you target no one.
google "if you market to everyone you market to no one"
and find place after place after place saying this is rule #1 of marketting
'Everyone' is a slight exaggeration, but only a slight exaggeration. Blockbuster films are marketed primarily at young adults and families, but they hope to appeal to wider demographics too. That's why they're almost always PG-13. While PG films may appeal to families, they don't usually sell in the same way to young adults.
They're marketed at the people who buy the most tickets. They hope to get people who don't go to the cinema as often to turn out too. The net is cast as wide as possible to catch the most fish because otherwise they stand no chance of making their money back.
That's the basic economic reality of blockbuster filmmaking in 2023. The idea that they're 'gendered' in the way you suggest is a relic of the distant past. These films are too expensive to do that any more.
so it went from everyone to not everyone pretty quickly....
yaaa man when they market war and nerdy sci fi films they are thinking "awww yaa all the women are coming out to see this!! we arent marketting it to men specifically!"
All these Gender Studies majors are going to keep posting their fact free "feelings" about this topic. Reality doesn't matter to them.
shareIf it's costing north of $150m with a similar amount spent on promotion, then 'how do we get this genre that traditionally appeals to one gender to also appeal to the other gender' is precisely what they're thinking.
Now think about which film board you're on, and why this film might exist in the first place... no, no, give it a bit more thought than that... and you might start to see that the $220m superhero film was not targeted at one demographic.
Again, how it actually panned out at the box office has nothing to do with how it was intended to be targeted.
"you might start to see that the $220m superhero film was not targeted at one demographic."
so disney didnt target certain demographics? they targeted everyone? you are going back to that nonsesne you just denied before lol
Now I can't tell if you're being stubborn, have poor reading comprehension or are being wilfully obtuse. Either way, you've been given the information. You'll either accept it or you won't.
You have nothing to offer me. You don't know anything. So we're done here.
"Well, it didn't appeal to its intended audience -- which was everyone. "
"'Everyone' is a slight exaggeration,"
"you might start to see that the $220m superhero film was not targeted at one demographic."
the idea that the company wouldn't know their film appealed more to males vs females, and market it as such, it one of the silliest things ive ever hear.
it one of the silliest things ive ever hear.
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Do you think these morons will deny the fact that Blockbusters like Twilight and Fifty Shades are made for girls? Actually, given their level of delusion and self lying (with the classic, you don't know nothing i tell you, I have nothing to do with you, so i leave - just like a coward), I would say they will play dumb (maybe not playing at all) and deny it anyways.
shareits crazy the things they say
shareANYWAYS🤣
shareTwilight cost $37m. Fifty Shades of Grey cost $40m. The Marvels cost $220m.
Do you begin to understand the basics of film economics, or not?
First, twilight is a movie from 2008, so you need to adjust for 2023. But, anyways, the difference in cost is because they are different kind of movies. One needed lots of Special Effects, CGI and post production. This has nothing to do with the target audience. Also, it's not our fault that Disney loves to inflate their budgets. Birds of pray has a budget of 82m, the double of your examples, and it's still a movie made for women. The thing is budgets and cost have nothing to do with the target audience of the movie.
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This is a fairly straightforward concept that even a child of five could understand:
The more expensive your film is to make, the more tickets you need to sell in order to turn a profit.
You sell more tickets by appealing to a wider group of people.
This is not a debate.
so Mission: Impossible dead reckoning was marketed to women and not as a male movie? what about twilight and 50 shades?
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/feb/18/global-box-office-fifty-shades-of-grey-kingsman-taken-3
"movie demographic: 68% female, "
Knowing these dumbos, they will make a case arguing that movies like Blood Sport, Rambo III or John Wick are targeted to girls. The reality is that most movies are made for families or a larger appeal. However, there is no denying many movies are targeted mainly to one particular group. Again, it doesn't mean other groups cannot be interested, but trying to deny this fact is hypocrite and in bad faith.
shareGo to Walmart's toy section and tell us if Barbie dolls are in the Boys section or the Girls section. Hint: Barbie dolls are in the Girls toy section. Why do you think that is?
shareBecause people like you assume that Barbie dolls are for boys, just like those same people assume toy cars are for boys. Boys can play with Barbies and girls can play with toy cars.
shareYou have the Woke Mind Virus.
https://bigthink.com/the-present/gender-stereotyped-toys/
"For decades, studies have shown that boys and girls generally prefer playing with toys typically associated with their biological sex: toy trucks for boys and dolls for girls, to give a rough example.
These results have remained remarkably stable over the past 50 years, according to a 2020 meta-analysis of research on gender differences in toy preferences. Published in Archives of Sexual Behavior and titled “The Magnitude of Children’s Gender‐Related Toy Interests Has Remained Stable Over 50 Years of Research,” the analysis examined 75 previous studies, 113 effect sizes, and a range of toy preference measurements.For decades, studies have shown that boys and girls generally prefer playing with toys typically associated with their biological sex: toy trucks for boys and dolls for girls, to give a rough example.
These results have remained remarkably stable over the past 50 years, according to a 2020 meta-analysis of research on gender differences in toy preferences. Published in Archives of Sexual Behavior and titled “The Magnitude of Children’s Gender‐Related Toy Interests Has Remained Stable Over 50 Years of Research,” the analysis examined 75 previous studies, 113 effect sizes, and a range of toy preference measurements."
Ah irrefutable scientific proof on the mater...
What is that I hear in return? Oh, it must be crickets.
You're being deliberately obtuse. Clearly some women will like male brands and vice versa, but overall Indiana Jones is a male brand, and Barbie is a female brand. This isn't really up for debate unless you're, as I said, being deliberately obtuse.
shareI don't understand why any straight male would complain about women in films. If I could cast a movie with anyone I wanted, I would have an all female cast.
shareObnoxious, ugly women complaining about "Muh patriarchy" is not entertaining, you dumbass.
share"I don't need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn't work about A Wrinkle in Time," said Larson. "It wasn't made for him! I want to know what it meant to women of color, biracial women, to teen women of color."
yet we should also go see her film and support her like good simps.
Obnoxious, (fat) ugly women
i was told ""I don't need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn't work about A Wrinkle in Time," said Larson. "It wasn't made for him! I want to know what it meant to women of color, biracial women, to teen women of color. "
so this movie wasnt made for me
APPARENTLY YOU DON'T HAVE THE SMARTS FOR IT...OR THAT QUOTE THAT YOU MISREAD OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
shareBecause our stuff is awesome and they know it, and their shit is shit and we know it. This is just basic science.
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