These films are getting to dumb and childish for me. They really don’t know what to do in this phase.
From now on I’ll probably wait until the films come out on Disney+. It’s just not worth paying for them in the theaters.
These films are getting to dumb and childish for me.
WHEN WERE THESE FILMS EVER NOT DUMB AND CHILDISH?....GIANT GREEN RAGE MONSTERS,ALIENS,HOT CHICKS IN TIGHT SUITS,OUT OF PLACE HUMOR,A MAN WITH A RED SKULL FOR A FACE,IN FILM COMMERCIALS FOR MORE FILMS...GODS,ELVES,DEMONS,MAGIC,TALKING RACCOONS,TIME TRAVEL,WALKING TREES,STAN LEE CAMEOS,FALAFEL...ALL BASED ON COMIC BOOKS....DUMB AND CHILDISH ARE THEIR CALLING CARDS.
THAT SAID...I LOVE THEM ALL...AS DUMB AND CHILDISH IS QUITE FUN WHEN DONE RIGHT.
I just feel that the earlier MCU films had a deeper storyline and less jokes.
Maybe I am just getting old.
THAT'S FAIR...I DO APPRECIATE THE DEEP STORYLINES... BUT PROBABLY APPRECIATE THE JOKES AND ASS KICKING MORE.
shareI agree actually , if you compare Phase 1 and 2 to the current phase its clear as day, Winter Solider was fantastic, a good balance between fun and deep, now its getting rather too comical. I loved Shang Chi, NWH and thought Dr Strange was ok , i wouldn't say Phase 4 has been disappointing , but its not a patch on the likes of Phase 1, 2 and 3.
shareYup. Winter Soldier is one of my favorites MCU films. Perhaps my favorite MCU film.
For me, my interest started declining with Wandavision. She’s just too uncharismatic to be a protagonist. Falcon and Winter Soldier was just bland. Loki was pretty bad and I didn’t finish it. Black Widow was just boring and predictable.
I agree with you on Shang Chi and NWH. They had the deeper storylines that I had come to expect from the MCU. However, Dr. Strange was just ok and forgetable.
Then I get this schlock of a fourth Thor film.
So, overall, there are only a few things that I like in this phase.
I rather save my time and money for something better than the MCU.
Iron Man was neither dumb nor childish. Even The Incredible Hulk was pretty serious. The First Avenger and Ultron were good too.
sharemy favorite capslocked black polish man is right. these movies have always been stupid. even at their most serious, they have always been about poorly written dorks who are looked down by society until they put on brightly colored spandex and start jumping around punching other dorks in brightly colored spandex. except today, you can add $200mill worth of explosions to make it look awesome and masculine. im really not sure why people get upset when one of these movies is funny. if it were up to me, all of these movies would be funny. why do people really want superhero movies with the court room drama schindler's list levels of seriousnesss???
also, the MCU humor sucks anyways. it's always just crappy improv where people stutter for 30 seconds.
An MCU film is the closest to a sure thing that exists in cinemas today. They're batting 29 for 29 so far, and while there is always the possibility of a turkey, no other franchise, studio, director, or actor has a track record even close to that of Marvel Studios.
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shareMy excitement for the MCU has just dropped. And not cause of this film, 'childish humor' or any of that.
And I definitely agree that they do go a bit overboard with humor sometimes. But I've mostly liked it
I think for me, my excitement just peaked in Phase 3. From Civil War to Homecoming, Infinity & Endgame. I watched the trailers for those films an unhealthy amount of times.
And now, they've announced SO MUCH stuff & I should be hyped but I got nothing. None of 'em made me go wow. My MCU excitement has just died on me.
A lot of the new films feature Marvel’s B-list superheroes (e.g., The Eternals, Moon Knight, She Hulk). I know these heroes have a fan base but it’s nowhere near the same size as that if the first string and there’s probably a reason for that. Taken together with general genre fatigue and the MCU’s per film box office is bound to decline, on average. But there’s still a lot of money to be made even from lesser and aging character franchises.
shareI honestly wasn't familiar with a bunch of the MCU's roster going in but I became a fan.
For me, they're just not doing enough to make me care about the new characters. Or keep me hooked.
If we're being honest, the original heroes-- Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, and Hawkeye-- were at best B-List heroes before the dawn of the MCU. Only the Hulk was a well-known character. With the Guardians of the Galaxy they dug into the most obscure reaches of their pantheon, and when it became a runaway success they realized that it doesn't matter how well-known the hero is, if you make a great film, audiences will see it.
Before the MCU began, the most well-known Marvel heroes were Spider-Man, the X-Men, Hulk, and the Fantastic Four, which, unsurprisingly, were the heroes whose rights they had sold to other studios before they started making their own films.
Iron Man, Hulk and Thor were pretty solid titles and Captain America was, at least, well known. But definitely Spiderman and X-Men were Marvel’s crown jewels. I don’t see Fantastic Four as being in quite that league. I agree that it’s possible to have a blockbuster with B-list superheroes if the film is well made. I’d say a quality screenplay is probably the most important single element, then a competent director. A-list superheroes are likewise no guarantee of success, as DC has repeatedly shown.
shareI don’t see Fantastic Four as being in quite that league.
AT ONE TIME THEY WERE THE MOST WELL KNOWN TITLE ON THAT LIST.
The Fantastic Four's stock has fallen because of the three crappy films, but they were a lot bigger in the past. My generation knew them from their comics and a popular, though short-lived, Saturday morning cartoon. For quite a long time they were Marvel's most popular characters. Even if you want to rank them at the bottom of the A-list, I definitely think they had more name recognition than any characters who had MCU films until Spider-Man.
shareIron Man and Thor were already very popular before the MCU. Captain America was popular only in US (and not much even there). Black Widow and Hawkeye were mostly unknown.
shareThey may have been somewhat well-known among comic book readers, but the general public was unaware of them. Comic readers know all the characters, the average man in the street circa 2004 would recognize only the heroes/teams I listed.
shareCaptain America was better known than just about anyone not named Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Wonder Woman or Hulk.
shareThat is not true at all. The character may have been vaguely familiar to people, but he was not some big name hero. The X-Men as a whole, but especially Wolverine, the Fantastic Four, Shazam, Aquaman, and a lot more come to mind as superheroes that EVERYONE knew and loved. Captain America would barely register with anyone outside of the comic book nerds.
shareI'd replace Fantastic Four with Captain America.
shareBased on what? Fantastic Four were a very well-known superhero group. They had their own Saturday morning cartoon, and had been in several big Hollywood films. They were the original Marvel comic that kicked off the silver age, and for many years were voted the most popular Marvel comic characters. Spider-Man eventually surpassed them, but they remained close behind. Pixar's The Incredibles was based on them.
If in, say, 2005 you asked random people in the street which comics/characters they knew or didn't know, very few would have known there was a comic book character called Captain America, but most all would have known the Fantastic Four.
I disagree because the term "Captain America" existed within the American lexicon well before the Chris Evans movies existed. Even if people didn't know much about the actual superhero, the term was used as slang to describe someone who was overly patriotic. In the military, it also referred to someone who was overly gung ho. I don't recall ever hearing similar figures of speech related to the Fantastic Four.
I'm not arguing that the Fantastic Four are obscure or irrelevant, but I think most people who had nothing to do with comics were probably more familiar with Captain America than the Fantastic Four, even if only as superficial of a level as name recognition. Note that I'm referring to a period before the MCU movies became so prevalent since more people have been exposed to superheroes than ever before.
I think for me, my excitement just peaked in Phase 3. From Civil War to Homecoming, Infinity & Endgame. I watched the trailers for those films an unhealthy amount of times.
They're doing the Multiverse & I love the Multiverse & I should be super excited but I feel nothing.
Also, it's a bit much to keep up with. At least for me. We had 18 films leading up to Infinity War. That's 19 films in 10 years.
So far, we've had 13 projects in literally just a year & a half. That's 6 films & 7 shows. And we still have stuff coming this year.
I wouldn't spend money on them, or Disney+, or any streaming service. I can watch about 90% of what I want to watch for free on ok.ru and have been for several years now. 🤷♀️🤷♀️
shareGreat, you're a dishonest piece of shit. We aren't all thieves, and most of us are happy to pay artists for what they create.
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shareNo one is crying, I'm merely pointing out a fact. People like you are why cinema, journalism, music, and so many more things, are dying or dead. You expect everything for free, and have no qualms about theft. I can't stop you from stealing, nor am I trying to. If you can live with yourself, then so be it.
shareJust saw this movie today. Was the worse MCU movie I've seen. Designed for the tweeny generation. The Asylum's Thor God of Thunder was better.
shareMarvel movies, and most superhero movies, are dumb and childish. That doesn't mean they're not fun. I personally don't watch superhero movies anymore. But a lot of people enjoy the genre. Marvel sucessfully set up a high expectation for their content. It's hard to maintain that level of expectation.They may not recover. Every genre has peaks and valleys. As a horror fan, I can assure you that the lull after a great set of movies is common and doesn't mean good movies aren't coming.
shareI waited for Doctor Strange to come out on Disney+. I used to book cinema tickets as soon as they went on sale and see the preview. The MCU is basically over.
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