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I feel the fanbase is on crack when it comes to Itachi....

posted 13 years ago by littlmonkey613
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"He was just following orders, he sacrificed everything hes so noble."

Someone please actually admit that you'd have to be *beep* up to actually think his actions are justified.......

I don't understand.

They could arrest the people in charge of the future uprising, he could have warned them all to flee, he could have made a plan for them to leave. Apparently it is now noble to annihilate your entire community full of innocents if you have warped thinking and think it will benefit the country somehow.

I'm sorry I feel like everyone is retarded on this front. I love him as a tragic figure but how in the hell do people actually think his actions were good and true? His intentions were good I must admit but come on........let's not pretend the ONLY option was for him to slaughter everyone. He made it clear that he doesn't have to follow orders b/c he didnt kill Sasuke. So...what gives...

It's ridiculous warped thinking. Slaughtering innocent people in your own village to make sure there is peace in the village? Ummm you lose at your own cause as soon as you act. I just get scared that people will defend this kind of madness in real life.

NIN

[–] spiderman112004 13 years ago

I don't understand.

Ok. Lets see if i can help.

They could arrest the people in charge of the future uprising, he could have warned them all to flee, he could have made a plan for them to leave. Apparently it is now noble to annihilate your entire community full of innocents if you have warped thinking and think it will benefit the country somehow.

Judging from these two sentences, you don't actually know what was going on. Everyone in the Uchiha clan was involved in a conspiracy to overthrow Konoha (the leaf village). Im sure there were innocent children who didn't know that but every able bodied uchiha of decent fighting age knew. Making a plan for them to leave? They were gonna start a civil war that would have left the village in shambles...They weren't going anywhere without a fight. Itachi didn't annihilate an entire clan of innocents. They were gonna do it and Konoha leadership tasked Itachi with stopping it.

I'm sorry I feel like everyone is retarded on this front. I love him as a tragic figure but how in the hell do people actually think his actions were good and true? His intentions were good I must admit but come on........let's not pretend the ONLY option was for him to slaughter everyone. He made it clear that he doesn't have to follow orders b/c he didnt kill Sasuke. So...what gives...

I agree that this could have been handled differently but any other way meant a bloody war which would have totally weakend the leaf village and outside enemies would have immediately taken advantage of the situation. Itachi was a tragic figure but not just because of what he had to do but because of he did, had to hide it from everyone including his little brother who he loved more than anything. Itachi followed the orders to the letter and he always did, the reason he didn't kill his brother is because he couldn't. Itachi loved the leaf village more than his clan but he loved something else even more than the leaf. He killed his parents, his friends, and his teachers but he could not kill his brother.

It's ridiculous warped thinking. Slaughtering innocent people in your own village to make sure there is peace in the village? Ummm you lose at your own cause as soon as you act. I just get scared that people will defend this kind of madness in real life.

I don't know if the info i posted above cleared things up. If the leadership and Itachi did not "act". The Uchiha clan's blood wasn't the only one's blood that would have been spilt. It essentially meant the end of the village. Ironically, there are plenty of historical references that have been debated to are similar to the Uchiha clan annihilation: England/Ireland, the American Civil War, the war of the roses, the Rwandan genocide, China Taiwan and so on and so forth.

P.S. Im not sure if you're trolling or not so...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&ob=av3n

"We are in the business of killing people, and Business is good."

[–] littlmonkey613 13 years ago

Oh mk so he essentially disagreed with what the clan was doing and was very very passionate about Konoha.

NIN

[–] deceiving_you 13 years ago

I get the kind of mental state Itachi was in when he chose to massacre his people but I still don't think its justified. There is always another way that does not have to end in violence. You cannot just kill an entire group of people because they do not like the status quo and plan to rebel against it. There is ALWAYS a way to go about things diplomatically and peacefully without having to immediately resort to violence. It does not sound like the government of Konoha tried to do any of that.

And I understand Itachi's love for his village. But one's love for ANYTHING should never trump basic human rights or respect for living beings.

[–] sLeIcNoDnAd 13 years ago

I still think there's more to the story. There's no way Itachi could have taken out the entire clan.

[–] monty103198 13 years ago

itachi didn't do it alone. he told sasuke who helped him.

[–] deceiving_you 13 years ago

Um, I don't think that just because this is an anime, people shouldn't be allowed to dissect and analyze any and every detail they wish too. People have the right to discuss whatever they want to- don't like it? Don't frequent message boards.

And I honestly don't think it's as simple as that. To me, every explanation I've read on the topic has fallen short of describing exactly what the dynamics were that lead to the situation and how that translated into Itachi's decision and ultimate plan. Their rarely is a such thing as a situation with only two answers- life is seldom black and white like that.

[–] zumannaruto 9 years ago

In the beginning you say

People have the right to discuss whatever they want to

but then you say

don't like it? Don't frequent message boards

If you can't spot the contradiction and how your fanboyism is getting the better of you then you are seriosly stupid.

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[–] imthebaddest11 10 years ago

Killing in the anime world isn't a big deal to people if the character is attractive.
"Art to me is a question mark. I don't think it should ever be an answer." Marilyn Manson

[–] imthebaddest11 10 years ago

http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdzebcyew21rs5cxro1_500.gif

"Art to me is a question mark. I don't think it should ever be an answer." Marilyn Manson

[–] ryoko_the_spacepirate1 9 years ago

They(the uchiha clan) did not want to flee they looked at Konoha as their home.They also thought the Uchihas should be in charge and that they had to seize power because their clan was being pushed back into obscenity.

So warning them would do nothing but let them flee and start the war while they are not in the actual village.And with the events happening in Amagukure who knows how long that would have went on or how many would have died.Itachi knew the village needed to stand mostly intact and together to focus on other things.

"I think I liked it better when I thought Sylar ate brains." -Warriorrenegade

[–] angmc43 9 years ago

Not to mention that Uchihas (Sasuke, Madara, etc.) have a tendency of being arrogant and conceited. A warning to flee would have been met with laughter ("We Uchihas, back down and flee? HAHAHA!"), ignorance ("Forget it!"), or aggression ("No one tells us Uchihas what to do!").