Why was she naked?
When michael was taking a bath why was hana suddenly naked?
i thought that was kinda creepy especially since he was so young
She appeared naked as she wanted to seduce the boy and have an affair or whatever with him, She had a nazi past so probaly didnt think it was creepy to do that and the boy didnt want to object either, I wish that had of happened to me when I was 15 haha
shareYour answer doesn't make much more sense than the original question. It wasn't part of Nazi ideology to seduce minors, and even if it was Hanna wasn't a Nazi.
shareIt was just a simple matter of "attraction". She wanted him, he wanted her. There's nothing more to it.
shareYour answer doesn't make much more sense than the original question. It wasn't part of Nazi ideology to seduce minors, and even if it was Hanna wasn't a Nazi.Sinceworld's question wasn't senseless, but sandso7785's reply was, and very immature, also.
Of course as artsy people defend movies, they'll say it was asking us to think, to question. I say "think about what"? If it's okay for a 37 year old woman to get naked and towel dry a strange 15 year old kid? Then reach around and say "oh that's why you're here"?
In truth the entertainment industry is destroying our moral values and this is just another of their tools. It's still pedophilia and that's not a part of German culture, anymore than it is anywhere else.
The entertainment industry wants to open minds to pedophilia, homosexuality and everything else debaucherous and hedonistic. We're supposed to freely explore drug use also, because it's sexy and fun.
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You're confusing pedophilia with homosexuality. Google Matthew Shepard.
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You're confusing pedophilia with homosexuality.If you're saying homosexuality is Hollywood's baby right now, I said that and agree. But all forms of deviant sexuality are their products to sell us.
Drug use and anything related to immediate gratification and the "you only live once" mentality, as well. They're also hard at work on the anti-Christianity front, but that goes hand-in-hand with the aforementioned immorality play.
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Actually the age of consent in Germany has been 14 since 1872. Michael is 15. So maybe don't talk out of your ass if you don't have a clue. Also this movie is an adaptation of a very well known German novel.
Also pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children.
So basically you are wrong about everything you say.
Actually the age of consent in Germany has been 14 since 1872. Michael is 15. So maybe don't talk out of your ass if you don't have a clue.Does the age of consent in Germany have anything to do with whether it's okay, from an American point of view, for an adult to have sexual contact with a child? I won't bother waiting for your answer, because it'll be idiotic. No it does not! My issue is with the message this relationship sends, and in that regard my point is 100% valid.
Also this movie is an adaptation of a very well known German novel.What does this have to do with anything? Writers are part of the entertainment industry and virtually all "artists" are flaming liberals. And the message is still depraved.
Also pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children.You don't counter people well. In this case you're nitpicking over prepubescent and under the age of consent, when most people label all of this pedophilia. So pat yourself on the back for nitpicking over the definition and minimizing the guilt of adults having sexual relations with children.
So basically you are wrong about everything you say.So basically, NO, I AM NOT!!! You took a run at me and fell on your face, somehow trying to defend child sexual abuse by telling me it's okay in Germany and then by nitpicking over the word pedophilia.
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Does the age of consent in Germany have anything to do with whether it's okay, from an American point of view, for an adult to have sexual contact with a child? I won't bother waiting for your answer, because it'll be idiotic. No it does not! My issue is with the message this relationship sends, and in that regard my point is 100% valid.
It does when you say this movie is portraying pedophilia and something not acceptable in German culture, when in fact it is not portraying pedophilia and a sexual relationship to a 15 year old is actually seen as acceptable in German culture. Otherwise it would be illegal.
So you are wrong on both accounts.
What does this have to do with anything? Writers are part of the entertainment industry and virtually all "artists" are flaming liberals. And the message is still depraved.
Again you are saying that what this movie shows is not acceptable in German culture, when in fact the book this movie is based on is read in German schools because it is deemed culturally relevant. So you are wrong yet again.
You don't counter people well. In this case you're nitpicking over prepubescent and under the age of consent
It is not nitpicking. The age of consent changes from country to country "prepubescent child" does not. That is the definition of pedophilia. If you are using it differently you are using the wrong word. Pedophilia is not whatever you say it is.
when most people label all of this pedophilia.
Actually only stupid people do.
So basically, NO, I AM NOT!!! You took a run at me and fell on your face, somehow trying to defend child sexual abuse by telling me it's okay in Germany and then by nitpicking over the word pedophilia.
Yes yes, you are. Wrong about everything. The point is this is not considered "child sexual abuse" in Germany like you claimed it is. And it is not pedophilia unless we are using your own private definition of the word. But words have fixed meanings for a reason, you know. Otherwise they become useless. share
It does when you say this movie is portraying pedophilia and something not acceptable in German culture, when in fact it is not portraying pedophilia and a sexual relationship to a 15 year old is actually seen as acceptable in German culture. Otherwise it would be illegal.Okay, let's explore what I really did say, "It's still pedophilia and that's not a part of German culture, anymore than it is anywhere else." Notice what's in bold print. I implore you, German people, because I said pedophilia isn't part of German culture and this Outsider23 person is saying it is.
Since I've established that most people consider pedophilia to be the same thing as sexual contact with a minor or under the age of consent, you're nitpicking over the word pedophilia.
Now, back to my point, which is correct and makes all the sense in the world. The entertainment industry is doing exactly what I'm accusing them of. I don't care if 15 is the age of consent in Germany, it's not so in the USA and this movie depicts this relationship in a very sympathetic way, which begs people to confront and lower their level of revulsion to sexual abuse of children.
If you like, I'll agree to stipulate "Sexual Abuse Of A Minor" be substituted for pedophilia, in all of my previous posts.
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"Pedophilia" or rather more correctly child molestation
is never part of any culture.
But it's part of the depraved counter-culture, of which
any society must be ashamed of.
Granted, there are people who consider it legitimate, in their own view.
Along the line of "Do what thou wilt, that is the whole of the law."
The author of this very colorfoul thought is Aleister Crowley.
I was shocked to hear a travel acquaintance once tell me that a child
is a legitimate sex partner because he/she is physically fit for the act.
He said nothing about it being consensual or not.
But I don't consider the man to be representative of his nation.
No. First you claim the movie depicts pedophilia.
Wrong.
Then you claim it shows something not acceptable in German culture. (Using your own private definition of pedophilia.)
Which is obviously wrong yet again because your definition of pedophilia is wrong.
Now you wind yourself like a worm trying to come up with excuses for you completely wrong allegations.
's not so in the USA and this movie depicts this relationship in a very sympathetic way, which begs people to confront and lower their level of revulsion to sexual abuse of children.
It shows the relationship in that way because that's the way it's shown in the book. It's shown that way in the book because its a symbolic representation of something else.
The woman is 21 years older than Michael. She could very well be his mother. That's the point by the way.
Lots of children being born after the second world war in Germany, soldiers coming home to their wives etc. It's only natural. Now lots of those kids grew up loving their parents like you normally would. Now imagine growing up with loving and caring parents and later finding out that those people that you love where either actively involved or at least passively complicit to the crimes committed in the third reich.
How to deal with that discrepancy and the guilt of the parent generation was a very real issue and the major theme of the cultural debate in Germany in the 60s and early 70s.
The author chose to depict a love affair instead of a parent child relationship first of all to make it less obvious and also to make the whole issue more relatable to a general audience. Because falling in love with an older woman is something even people without nazi parents can relate to.
Seeing the level of knowledge you have shown so far in this thread it doesn't surprise me that you didn't get any of that though.
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The author chose to depict a love affair instead of a parent child relationship first of all to make it less obvious and also to make the whole issue more relatable to a general audience. Because falling in love with an older woman is something even people without nazi parents can relate to.You dressing this subject up by calling it a love affair proves my point. That sure is a nice, tidy way to describe sexual abuse of a minor. And that's what I'm opposed to... the mainstreaming of sexual abuse of a minor. For some reason you're having trouble grasping that.
You seem to think this is or should be relatable to all of us or the majority at least and I'd prefer that none of us can relate to Kate Winslet's character. I found her actions detestable and it causes one to try to rationalize her actions, which causes us to sympathize. How could a 36 year old woman, look at a 15 year old sexually? How can an outdoor23 oppose my point so passionately?
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How can an outdoor23 oppose my point so passionately?
If by "how" you actually mean "why" then the very simple answer is because you keep making false allegations due to the fact that you've already fallen victim to weird morals depicted in American mainstream media.
If you don't understand what that means I suggest you walk up to the nearest high school and call a bunch of 15-year-olds "children" .
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If by "how" you actually mean "why" then the very simple answer is because you keep making false allegations due to the fact that you've already fallen victim to weird morals depicted in American mainstream media.Would you be saying this if your 15 year old daughter was seduced by a 36 year old man? Either way, you're part of the sickness.
If you don't understand what that means I suggest you walk up to the nearest high school and call a bunch of 15-year-olds "children".
And you're comparing 15 year olds of 2016 with 15 year olds from a much, much more innocent time. That relationship, especially with her being the deliberate seductress, was totally inappropriate. He was a 15 year old child! But you progressives keep patting each other on the back, feeling superior for your hedonistic attitudes.
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Because you are wrong with pretty much everything you write. And if I read something that is blatantly wrong I comment on it. I have laid out why you are wrong in a very detailed way. I see you don't have a single counter argument. Kate Winslets character isn't supposed to be sympathetic. I would suggest you read the book which makes that point more clearly. But I guess it would be wasted on you.
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