Black Panther to Demolish Justice League Opening Weekend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlQXboS7FQM
Quite probable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlQXboS7FQM
Quite probable.
Black Panther trailer alone is better than the entirety of the DCCU.
sharelooks great. Can't say I like that hip-hop or rap or whatever that shit is. But the visuals are pretty good.
shareHmmmm. . .try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw8FDr5VUCU
nothing against the legitimacy of Rap or Hip-Hop as an art form, just not the first thing I would think of when in association with a movie of a dude who is the king from an African country of Wakanda called T'challa that goes around kicking major ass, as seen previously in CW.
I would rather hear a tribal style of rhythm, a futuristic kind of score [to accompany Wakanda's level of scientific evolution] or the usual cinematic score.
Fair enough. . .I was just responding to
"Can't say I like that hip-hop or rap or whatever that shit is"
. . .and
"That hip-hop/rap shit for music was kind of a turn down on the trailer [visuals are dope though]"
In my experience, this type of sentiment comes from people whose only exposure to Hip-Hop music is the (admittedly terrible) garbage that's on the radio, or otherwise easily accessible. There is a WEALTH of incredible Hip-Hop music out there. Like everything else, you just have to be open to it.
I have some friends who are are well established in the Hip-Hop and Rap scenes [some more on the underground side of those] and it's easy to acknowledge the specificity of that kind of music making [I did some recordings for a DJ/MC - guitar and bass stuff mostly for him to use as loops/snippets in his creative process]. Nothing against the genre in itself; but, like I said previously, I wouldn't pick it to play on a Black Panther trailer. I feel it requires something more in tune with the reality of Wakanda and the character itself.
As a side note, although I felt amused that Black Sabbath's Iron Man was used as snippets in the Iron Man movie and trailer, I didn't quite like the AC/DC use at all. All I could think was "wait... where's BS's Iron Man?"
I listen to all types of music,and rarely from the radio. I think currently,hip hop and rap is at a real low.
shareWell, like I said: Commercially available rap, or easily accessible, is generally pretty terrible. But I can tell you For Sure, as someone that's in the game: there's a WEALTH of incredible stuff out there:
Brother Ali
Joey Bada$$
Jean Grae
MF Doom
Grip Grand
Hieroglyphics
Run the Jewels
Kool Keith
Pharaohe Monch
Lady Leshurr
Camp Lo
BCC
Chali 2Na
Locksmith
etc, etc, etc, etc. . .
In an era when all these people are a mouse click away, and tools to create/disseminate music are more simple/robust/powerful than EVER, there has NEVER been such a wealth of good stuff.
You just won't hear it on the radio. . .or in the bling-bling clubs. But who cares? That's Never been where the culture bubbled, really. Mass appeal is nice, but it's hardly a barometer for what's going on across the board.
Hahaha,you might be right, because I haven't heard of any of those. I rely on streaming music that let an algorithm pick the next song,and it's rarely outside of the mainstream. I'll have to check some of these out.
share"Kool Keith"
the master.
What do you feel about Kendrick Lamar creating a concept album for the film?
I just have this feeling that it will be underwhelming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfCqMv--ncA
Not a fan of auto-tune as I prefer pure vocals that deliver raw emotion with power.
Soundtracks get wide play which tends to make a particular track 'popular' when tied to a particular scene or visual.
Kendrick is one of those artists that is interesting to me, because he clearly has a LOT of talent, but his music just doesn't do it for me. Given that, I'll be interested to see what he comes up with. . .worth checking for at the very least. Fingers crossed. . .
shareWhen you have to cite a list of totally obscure artists to justify a vibrant musical genre, that genre has shot it's wad already. Rap/Hip Hop was a revolution and vibrant for many years. Now nothing new of significance is produced. It happened to Rock and basically every other popular music ever created. Diehards will grope for any scraps to make a case that a musical form remains a relevant artistic force and deny that it has descended mainly into redundant, mass-marketed pap. One could list 20 obscure, currently existing rock bands and try to make the same case, and fail all the same. Hip hop persists mainly because of its stupidly simple bass rhythms and megalomaniacal posturing, which appeals to the undiscriminating herd at dance parties.
shareTranslation: "I don't know it, so it's obscure. And even though I have NO idea what I'm blathering about, I'm gonna take this opportunity to tilt my head back and bray nonsense, because. . .interwebs!!! Yah!"
Well done. Thanks for your insights. You can go now >plonk<
By definition, if people don't know then they are indeed obscure. If people know, they are not obscure.
I dig Monkey3 and SpaceSlug, but how many people know who they are? [probably the 2 or 3 random pot heads on their concerts]. They are indeed rather obscure even inside the Progressive/Space/Stoner genre. Happen to stumble upon them on a sub-sub-reddit post from years ago and found a couple of vids on youtube with a very low view count; even though they each have 4 or 5 albums released already.
And he is quite correct: Hip hop and Rap [and any subsequent no-need-to-study-music-because-reasons sub-genre that followed and is reliant on a computer with Bitwig or Fruity Loops [insert random Ebay edition here] installed and a cheap 2 octave midi keyboard plugged in] are extremely simple [it's part of their genesis, anyways. Those Roland XoX boxes guitar players would buy and then throw away because they were [and still are] very imperfect and limited for band use were picked up by the kids in the ghettos back in the day] and falls easily into cliches [as and example you see one of their clips, you see most of them all: black dude smoking a massive joint, posing gold necklaces and rings, surrounded by ass jerking chicks, driving a sports car while showing a pile of bills and talking and gesticulating to a camera. Meanwhile you hear words such as "uh-hu", "yeah", "nomesayin", "biatch", "whore", "hood", "gangasta","cops", "bullet", "kill", "white man/boy", "drugs", "party" ad nauseam because ... it's "poetry"... nomsayin'?].
Now this doesn't mean there aren't those inside a genre that can break away from those things and indeed create something interesting.
The problem here is that these aren't the 60's or the 70's anymore. People are not encouraged to try different things and studios aren't letting you use their recording rooms for free to experiment new techniques as it happened back then with bands such as Pink Floyd, Genesis and King Crimson. - continues -
In fact, ever since the mid 90's [and in some cases even mid 80's] a musician/band has to pay a great deal of money to use the recording studio room. Hence why PC based recording software and bedroom studios had such a boom in growth since the late 90's. Why pay for a recording room when you can do it in the comfort of your own bedroom.
A band will only go to a recording studio as a last resort. Many times the bands will come to a recording studio with most of their work already done, all is needed is remastering and some extra takes for fine tuning.
This implies that most people don't have the gear needed at their disposal [indeed, the price on musical instruments and gear is one of the most inflated in the world, to the point where for a slab of easily available piece of wood you can pay 4000 plus dollars just for the brand tag on it] and most of what they want to do is unavailable to them.
The initial estimates that I read about a week ago were in the +$80 Million range which is HUGE for a debut/origin movie prior to WOW. I would be surprised if BP demolishes JL. I wouldn't call an opening that is 3-5% greater than JL's opening a Butt-Whipping. But as the video said for Warner/DC to throw everything and every character into JL and only get $93 Million is indeed an embarrassment for DC.
Ant-Man did $57 Million and Dr. Strange did $85. WW did $103 Million so around $90 Million seems about right for BP given the allure and draw of the character to the potential audience. For me the Marvel brand has some cachet that should make that $90 Million solid. DC has a damaged brand and JL didn't help.
It should do good, the character's debut in CW was pretty well received [I do think the guy nailed the character to a T; I even preferred him to most of the characters there]. However, I can't lie: That hip-hop/rap shit for music was kind of a turn down on the trailer [visuals are dope though]
shareAccording to this guy making money makes a film quality. I care that the film will be good not how much money it makes. I do not need the box office to determine my opinion for me. Black Panther will be a much better film than Justice League, I have no doubt about that.
shareAccording to this guy making money makes a film quality.According to what guy??? Who told you that the Box Office should determine your opinion and when did a Box office number; OW, WW or otherwise ever take away any one's personal opinion? share
TwistedAcrobat did. Nothing against anyone else he and I simply have a past feud. It is fun to see how he reacts. Anyway I am looking forward to Black Panther.
share" he and I simply have a past feud"
I don't have a "feud" with you. You are just my bitch. It's that simple :)
I saw that .....and of course you'd call it a feud. It's like a bicycle calling it a merger when it's hit by a train. You got owned so much you should come with a warranty.
shareNot only did I ever say such a thing, Whinny Timmy over there is still butt-hurt I called TDK overrated. Hasn't stopped whining ever since.
share
B.O = reception.
Avengers is still the CBM with the most reception to this day. And the one who put the DCEU on their knees to the point of trying to imitate it.
In other words... it shits on your Batman movies.
Where exactly do you read B.O = Quality?
I know you are dumb as a brick, but at least try.
Read over what you posted again. You said that the Avengers has the best reception to this day. Thing is I was arguing how the MCU ranked by critics and fans. You're trying to imply that means it is a quality film because of box office. Avengers is not the best received film. There are other superhero films that surpass it in terms of reception. Just because something made the most money does not mean it was better received. It is what your feeble mind wants to think but it is simply not true. You veered off topic because you were getting your ass kicked. It was a last pathetic ditch effort.
The fact that you said it crapped all over the other films it made more money than shows that you're an idiot.
so, basically your level of reading comprehension is zero besides you being a dumb, sad, butt-hurt motherfucker. Î'm ashamed of you, my bitch.
shareMan please do not ever be a lawyer or join a debate team. I would hate to see you be humiliated.
shareYou mean, the way I am constantly humiliating you and you keep coming back with your poor reading skills and more whining? How delightful.
My bitches tend to be at least somewhat smart and know when to quit. You bring shame to my bitches.
Oh yeah I was so humiliated when you veered off topic. Remember when you said Avengers had the best reception? Pretty untrue statement when you actually crunch the data numbers huh?
shareYou two are the Movie-Chat version of Ebert & Siskel but I haven't decided if I can say which is which though.
shareSiskel and Ebert called each other "birches" and "butthurt" when they debated movies?
shareSiskel & Ebert notoriously ridiculed each other over their views and opinions on Movies. With all of the research that you do I know that you know that.
They would at times display their invectives for talk-shows and interviews but many of their more demonstrative jibs at each other were done in their studios.
You? I have no example of a popular movie reviewer or pundit, no wait, Willard Scott! And hopefully I'm not defaming Willard Scott that much but he originally played Ronald McDonald.
"Siskel & Ebert notoriously ridiculed each other over their views and opinions on Movies. With all of the research that you do I know that you know that."
I appreciate the kind words and of course I am familiar with their public feuding and jibs. My point is the language that...oh never mind.
I appreciate the kind words and of course I am familiar with their public feuding and jibs. My point is the language that...oh never mind....oh never mind.
"Oh yeah I was so humiliated when you veered off topic. Remember when you said Avengers had the best reception? Pretty untrue statement when you actually crunch the data numbers huh?"
Never said had better reception. All I said was "DK is terribly overrated", which is true and also the reason why you are so butt-hurt. As if I could care less for your precious movie. :) So fuck off very much
PS - DK is terribly overrated and you are my most shameful bitch.
PS2 can't wait for more of your whining. It's quite entertaining. :)
B.O = reception.
Avengers is still the CBM with the most reception to this day. And the one who put the DCEU on their knees to the point of trying to imitate it.
In other words... it shits on your Batman movies.
"Your words not mine"
^^^^^ Crying little girl is crying besides having hilariously bad reading and comprehension skills... because she is a dumb ass.
"Why is the Dark Knight overrated? Oh yeah that is right because you say so."
^^^^^^ You - some random internet whiner - feeling entitled to any explanation makes it even more hilarious. Ahah. Good job. Must be sad living with your expectations being crushed with a simple "fuck off".
"I won this debate several times over my friend. Admit defeat."
^^^^^The idiot continues to think his "debating" is anything real. LMFAO. Dude, you are so out of your league it makes my stomach ache with so much laughter. I made you my bitch as soon as I made you cry. Admit it.
Oh, and by the way... fuck off.
Go cry to someone who actually cares about your random internet whining.
I comprehended it just fine, you're now attempting to backpedal. Sorry bud it is not going to work.
In order for me to believe a person has credibility they need to explain themselves. I offered you to do it, you did not. You will now of course pretend like you do not owe an explanation, when you and I both know that is not why you failed to do so. You failed to do so because that is just it you have no reason. Unfortunately for you that is a shot to your credibility.
Funny thing is you told me to reply to billbrown which is how the original debate started. I did reply to him and guess what even though we are not in total agreement he elaborated on his views, therefore I could respect his stance. The hilarious thing was he called you out for being an in denial idiot.
Good job on getting me to reply to someone who thinks you're the one who is foolish. I believe it was you who got all hostile not me. Typical behavior of someone who can not win a debate or accept another opinion.
If I am so out of my league why are you not elaborating on your points? If it was so easy to embarrass me you would have done it by now. I took a direct quote from you and now you're trying to lie and say you never said it lmao!
Oh and by the way get educated. People like you are so predictable it makes me laugh.
tl; dr
ps - don't smash that edit button.
So no retort huh? I thought not.
share^^^^ more tears.
shareYep from laughter lol.
share^^^ :'(((
shareThis is almost sad to watch.
Almost.
I find it sad when someone blindly aligns themselves with someone ignorant. I find it even more sad when they chime in on a conversation they had nothing to do with. So spare the pity you almost felt, for it is not warranted in any way. Pity yourself for aligning yourself with someone ignorant.
shareIf you don’t want people chiming into your conversation...rethink that whole “posting on a public forum” thing, pudding pop
shareI found it funny that you blindly agreed with someone ignorant. Do you even know what he and I are debating? I was simply mocking you for trying too hard.
Second you're pretty desperate, that is so apparent it's is sickening. This is the second time you've injected yourself into this discussion.
You that desperate for attention? I ignored you the first time for a reason. It's okay though, aligning yourself with someone that ignorant is quite telling about your mentality.
People that do that should not chime into discussions.
^^^^ :'((( "bwah bwah bwah I want to be heard bwah bwah bwah. MOMMYYYYYYY!!!!"
You are such an annoying troll, even for troll standards. What's wrong muffin? Daddy didn't buy you the toy you wanted for Xmas? :'(((
No one cares for your whining, little girl.
You are not "arguing" because no one gives two shits for your "reasons" [as hilariously bad as they may be].
You're just crying on the internet like an idiot because I said DK is overrated and it infuriated you. I like to see you cry because of a movie. It's fun stuff.
Now dance monkey. Dance! Show me those tears. :'(((
*watch him come back with yet another lame retort in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1..."
So trolling means disagreeing in your eyes. You claimed The Dark Knight was overrated and then I asked you to elaborate, you did no such thing. Honestly even if I disagreed with the reasons I would be civil and agree to disagree. You got all bent out of shape and resorted to personal attacks.
That is why you retreated to box office. You were losing the argument therefore you grasped at straws. The Dark Knight has better reception than any MCU movie. The Dark Knight Rises does as well. So no Ledger death excuse lol.
I called you on the carpet and now you are salty. You also claimed the Avengers had the best reception and it does not many other superhero films surpass it in terms of reception. You tried to lie your ass off which is why I quoted your own words verbatim. Think before typing please it will help you.
Then of course you will say you do not have to give me an explanation, which you are correct. Thing is though do you expect me to take your words at face value when you will not elaborate? You and I both know the reason you did not is because you have no reason. That is why once I got rid of your scapegoat you abandoned ship.
Destroying you in a debate is oh so easy. Lie down before you hurt yourself.
Look gang! It came back.
What a surprise. :'((((
I'm not saying HE'S always right. I'm just saying YOU'RE always an asshat.
And trust me, Martha, you are ILL-equipped for a two front war.
How am I always an asshat? Elaborate.
shareRead your own posts.....
shareI do. You only stepped into this conversation and made an assumption. Read over his posts. He resorted to personal attacks against me because I disagreed with him about movies. I did not do that to him. He is the asshat. Be careful about aligning yourself with him.
share:'( I don't attack people on their oppinions. I don't go back and smash the EDIT button to try and hide your own dumbass mistakes.
I also don't have reading and comprehension skills problems like you do.
Neither do I keep crying on the Internet like you do.
"Be careful about aligning yourself with him."
BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH.
PS - you got owned. You are my bitch. Admit it. :'(
I didn't get caught in a lie like you did. Own it.
shareI broke him.... I really REALLY broke him. XD
I owned him... I really owned him.
shareno
shareyes.
share^^^^ delusional whining scumbag is delusional for the amusement of the general populace.
At this point you are pretty much the town idiot, besides being my very own biatch for personal entertainment. :)