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One Goof, One Plot Hole?

posted 13 years ago by sbaker777
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When young David is in Arcana Cabana and Balthazar has already given him the ring, David proceeds to knock the Grimhold out of the hidden spot in the wall. When David picks it up, it magically opens. Why? No thought process or incantation or spell from David, and it just opens up? Why didn't it do that on it's own, before then? Did David, being the Prime Merlinian have something to do with it. If it did, then being the Prime Merlinian would be a bad thing, not good. You'd think that he being the PM, the Grimhold, in his possession, would be even MORE difficult to escape.
Also... there never was a time between the time they met and when they were on the roof after Balthazar saved David from Horvath on the train tracks, that David told Balthazar anything about what he likes to do... yet Balthazar says, "You were the last one Horvath saw with the Grimhold. That puts you on his list. So unless you want him to turn you into a pig, that just lovvves physics..." When did David EVER tell Balthazar he was into physics? They had no contact for 10 years, and he didn't tell him when they met, and he didn't tell him up until this point. So... Like the movie, so I'm not attacking... just wondering.

[–] nancynhac 13 years ago

My theory is that Dave being the PM gave him the power to open the Grimhold, even though he didn't know what it was. He picked it up, curious to see the apparent nesting doll, and the ring interpreted that as a wish to open the doll. Maybe that's why Balthazar specifically told Dave, "Do not move. Do not touch anything." If Dave had waited until he knew what he was doing, I'm sure he wouldn't have allowed the Grimhold to open.
As for the physics line, the novelization includes Dave referencing the laws of physics when the eagle lands. In the movie, unless Balthazar really can read Dave's mind (which is possible, considering some of the other things he says), the only possibility left is that Dave said something while they were still in the air.

[–] sbaker777 13 years ago

Yeah the reading of minds did cross mine too, but literally took it as a joke when he said it.

[–] liisbdn-907-683473 13 years ago

I think he meant that he would turn Dave into a pig (physically) but he would still retain his own conciousness and therefore still really 'loooooovvee' physics.
Balthazar was being sarcastic.

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