I think it's because I watched the entire thing all the way up to 8 again so I can see the side by side of the stellar writing of pre-season 7. But something about a lot the dialogue in S8 feels false. It takes me out of the moment.
Season 8 is starting off rather oddly, very few intricacies and a lot of talking about nothing - and no action of any sort - so it does feel like a different writer is at the helm. It basically feels like filler material - perhaps they didn't have enough stuff written down for the last season?
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they only had enough material given to them by Martin to fill 3 hours - so they had to come up with their own shit for the other 5.
Not exactly filler, they are saying all the things they need to say, it's just confined to these first 2 episodes cause some of these characters are gonna die. I don't think there's gonna be much room for talking the next couple episodes.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they only had enough material given to them by Martin to fill 3 hours - so they had to come up with their own shit for the other 5.
That's not the case at all. More like Martin gave them enough material to last 3 more seasons but they instead chose to condense it into two much shorter ones instead.
reply share
It's probably due to the rushed nature of these first two episodes. They are basically going through a checklist of things that need to happen before shit hits the fan with the upcoming war where likely many characters will die.
Basically tying up loose ends that should have been tied already but weren't due to poor planning, wasted screen time on filler in seasons 5 & 6, and time constraints due to these shorter final two seasons. This effects the writing quality because these things were not given enough breathing room which gives it a forced and unnatural feel.
GOT is definitely displaying some symptoms of final season-itis. Unfortunately, few shows, if any, really stick the landing in their last season. One of the telltale signs is exactly what you mention.
Well - I didn't want to go quite there haha. But yes - it's not great. I was feeling weird about it since S8E1. But Dany's line about women doing a "damn" good job leading...wtf? She would NEVER say that. Or even notice it.
Oh good! I think we were all worried that maybe the show had taken a dip in quality. Everyone, let's thank JimmyStrudel for setting the record straight! We can all sleep tonight!
Overall, no but I have to admit that Dani and Arya both have had some lines that seemed out of place. The writers don't have to worry about securing their job for next season and are too comfortable in their choices.
The only thing not ringing true is how they're writing for Dany. I don't see her as this meglomaniac. She's acting like she's entitled to everything and I never saw her like that. Her conversations with Sansa, and the rest is not ringing true to the person we've seen for the last seven years. Yes, she wants the Throne, but she'd not stupid. They're writing her stupid.
Not just the dialogue but some of the characters' attitudes. I have a really, REALLY hard time believing that Tyrion trusted Cersei, that she would send her army North to help fight the Whitewalkers.
And I don't understand at all why Arya would say Sansa is the smartest person she knows. Unless something happened off-screen that we didn't see. Or maybe it had something to do with the way they teamed up to outmaneuver Littlefinger?
I haven't read the books and I'm not good at connecting everyone and everything but these two developments just do not ring true or seem believable for me.
Sansa used to be very naive with a romanticized vision of the world. She gained life's experience, lessons from Littlefinger and became an adult.
Tyrion's game is off since last season. I think it was subconscious because he was fighting against his own family and he's very close to Jaimie. Maybe it'll be different since his brother has joined him.
Sansa used to be very naive with a romanticized vision of the world. She gained life's experience, lessons from Littlefinger and became an adult.
Yeah, but I still don't think that makes her the smartest person in the room.
As for Tyrion, some have suggested that his character has changed since they ran out of Martin's source material and began writing their own plots. I tend to agree. I get that they're trying to show Tyrion making mistakes and Dany losing trust in his advice, but I think they could have accomplished that without having him trust Cersei.
reply share
Did *you* trust Cersei? I know I was baffled by her decision. If anything, she's the one acting counter to what's been established for her character. She's the worst, but not irrational. Ignoring the zombie apocalypse because you want to sweep in and kill the victors. . .IF they survive. . .is the height of insanity. She's never been That.
So I don't have a problem w/Tyrion "trusting" her. More like he trusted she would act rationally. Her actions, regardless of how the show wants us to see them, Don't Make Sense.