I see that you really want to manufacture a victory for yourself here. It's understandable - you waded into a discussion thinking that you automatically had enough credibility to attack a popular film with zero explanation and not be challenged for doing so. That you need to reframe your arrogant, stupid comment as a 'jab' is not surprising. I hope some people believe you.
You want to talk about being qualified to say things, you can't really speak on my sense of humour, whether I'm just an immature guy who wanted to wind some people up by calling their movie a bore. It even rhymes "It's a bore, need I say more". But I wouldn't expect whoever bites to realise that, hence why you bit.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227984/board/thread/238389345?d=244193070#244193070Here is an example of me in the past, it's actually on the same topic. I joke that this is the start of me stating my opinion as an opinion, rather than a fact. Then I tell them that I was joking, and that the movie really is just simply not funny. If you start getting to grips with this, then you can comment on my level of believability.
Here is proof enough that I obviously don't think I have enough credibility to call a movie boring, and for that to mean that it is unquestionably boring. It's simply fun to argue with people as serious as yourself. Really fun, thanks.
Well you should 'care' because it makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. The fact is that I qualified my judgement where as YOU DIDN'T, which is even worse considering you were negatively criticising something. That you think you can ignore inconvenient FACTS because they don't support your preferred narrative makes you insane.
No, we're talking about whether something is objective or not. If you say that something "is" brilliant, and then go on to talk about it, you still said something objectively rather than subjectively. And brilliance in movies is purely subjective. Again, I don't mind you doing this, most people do it - but maybe don't say that I should say it's my opinion, if you don't either. You maybe could've said something like "Oh, and why did you think it was boring?". Rather than telling me what I need to be doing, in your imaginary hypocritical rule book.
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Drooch
9 years ago
You want to talk about being qualified to say things, you can't really speak on my sense of humour, whether I'm just an immature guy who wanted to wind some people up by calling their movie a bore. It even rhymes "It's a bore, need I say more". But I wouldn't expect whoever bites to realise that, hence why you bit.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227984/board/thread/238389345?d=244193070#244193070
Here is an example of me in the past, it's actually on the same topic. I joke that this is the start of me stating my opinion as an opinion, rather than a fact. Then I tell them that I was joking, and that the movie really is just simply not funny. If you start getting to grips with this, then you can comment on my level of believability.
Being clear about what you're stating as a personal opinion/emotional response as distinct from objective analysis of the filmmaking craft is important. It's ambiguous as to whether you have genuinely understood the importance of this, or whether you're 'joking'. I hope you're not, because it's important if you want your writing to be worth people's time.
So what are your expectations of people? Are we supposed to take it that you understand the difference between reviewing subjectively and objectively, or that you're joking about understanding its importance?
Here is proof enough that I obviously don't think I have enough credibility to call a movie boring, and for that to mean that it is unquestionably boring. It's simply fun to argue with people as serious as yourself. Really fun, thanks.
It's obvious if you make it clear, and would need to put that disclaimer on all your unqualified attacks on films. But here's a better idea - instead of insulting popular films for effect, why not make valuable criticisms with insight into how and why you feel the way you do about a film. You'll waste less of your and other people's time.
There's no 'argument' here, there's just an examination of your behaviour, that's all this is.
No, we're talking about whether something is objective or not. If you say that something "is" brilliant, and then go on to talk about it, you still said something objectively rather than subjectively. And brilliance in movies is purely subjective. Again, I don't mind you doing this, most people do it - but maybe don't say that I should say it's my opinion, if you don't either.
Brilliance in movies is not 'purely subjective' because there are certain films, and filmmakers, that resonate with audiences across the world over decades. Hitchcock is widely known as 'the master of suspense' because he knows how to effectively cue certain psychological states in his audience by using very particular techniques of the craft. Hamlet is a demonstrably better piece of literature than 50 Shades Of Grey.
You maybe could've said something like "Oh, and why did you think it was boring?". Rather than telling me what I need to be doing, in your imaginary hypocritical rule book.
I did. You said 'need a I say more' and I responded 'yes' and explained why. I was, and am, doing you a huge favour.
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RKharlamov2001
9 years ago
Oh god it's you again, have you spent half a month coming up with this trash?
When i see you talk about wasting time I can only laugh. You think I'm wasting my time and other peoples, yet you spend so much time conversing with me. How sad does that make you? I don't think i'm wasting time here, i'm just having fun with you... you on the other hand, think this is a waste of time yet continue to be involved - lol.
The part you are wasting your time with is trying to teach me anything. I don't care for your knowledge/opinion on what I should be doing, nor have any respect for it, the reason for that is because you're being serious about this for no reason... and I find that a little dumb. I will take nothing you say into account. I really can't believe you're trying to teach someone who wrote a little one liner on a movie they hated. Continue to waste your own time if you'd like, your goal cannot be achieved, but you do continue to achieve my original goal from my first post. I annoyed a fanboy of this garbage movie.
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Drooch
9 years ago
You seem to have misunderstood what's going on here. You said 'need I say more', to which I replied 'yes' and gave a generous explanation. Then, when you didn't get the answer you wanted, you became defensive, at which point this exchange became a study in irrationality and the ego. It continues to be this study, and I look forward to your defensive reply so that we can all observe your processes.
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RKharlamov2001
9 years ago
and I look forward to your defensive reply so that we can all observe your processes.
Grow up you very sad little man.
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