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'Let the bombs go off! We are human beings!'


She didn't see just a slight inconsistency in that?



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It was said in the heat of the moment at the thought of hurting the children. It did not need to be logically consistent.

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Well, it turned out that was the only way to get to him, didn't it?


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It made total sense. That is where she drew the line. The torture and murder of two innocent children did not make up for the safety of millions of Americans.

It's a horror film. People live, people die and you'd better start running!-Scre4m

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How does that make any sense? Those millions would have included many children as well, and he had already blown up some children by then.

Besides, no one was talking about murdering them.


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The millions of people would have died by his doing not by theirs. So by not torturing him or his kids, they keep their humanity. You can't really blame anyone for not torturing and killing children, not matter what's at stake.

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I am not saying that they should have tortured the children. It was enough for Samuel L. Jackson's character to just lock himself in a room with them and turn off the lights for Michael Sheen's character to suspect the worst.

The problem with the "we are human beings!" line of thinking is that they were not dealing with a human being, they were dealing with a monster. And monsters require monstrous measures.



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"The problem with the "we are human beings!" line of thinking is that they were not dealing with a human being, they were dealing with a monster. And monsters require monstrous measures. "

They weren't dealing with a monster. If that was true he wouldn't mind his wife killed and his children tortured.

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I am sure there were people Hitler cared about as well. In fact, people like that think of themselves as supremely good and are convinced that whatever they are doing is for the betterment of humanity.

That is some seriously fallacious reasoning on your part.


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Agreed...

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I'm sorry, but there are no monsters – only people.

Hitler was human. Sorry to break it to you, but we don't, as a species, get let off the hook for his crimes by way of the comforting disassociation we get from tidily labelling him a "monster". It isn't that clear-cut or simple – or helpful for that matter.

This film doesn't give any simple, easy answers, and ALL the characters are all flawed – i.e. human.

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I'm sorry, but there are no monsters – only people.
True.
Although it's kind of a semantics issue. These people are definitely human. But the word "monster" in this context is simply a label for certain behavior, just as a..hole is. In that sense, many people would label him a monster. We just have to hope they don't forget he's human.

Many think bombing Japan was monstrous. If this "terrorist" feels as justified as the US government did, are they equivalent? That is, are they both either monsters or not monsters?

Timmie, if you don't bring that rocketship back this instant, you'll get the spanking of your life!

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I am sure there were people Hitler cared about as well.


Godwin's Law....


Hitler was a human and far from a two dimensional villain. If it wasn't for the elite in UK, Switzerland, USA, etc, Hitler never would have came to power, let alone been able to wage war.


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That's the thing, it's easy to let people/children die if you don't know them or see there faces, killing/harming the children in front of you would be harder to let go than thousands/millions of others you can't see/ don't know
9/11 was bad but you would of felt worse about it if you knew someone who was there

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What's the old Chinese axiom, 'kill a thousand to save a million'. ? The military uses that all the time.

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If you are unable to value the lives of two children how are you going to value the lives of millions of people?! Isn't that what the world needs?!
"Save two small children, even in danger of losing millions" or "Torture and kill two small children, because it could save millions"

It's your choice what may feel right. But I think the seconds argument might probably be one of the reasons we'll never live free of war. And if the second one was really favored by most how can any child be safe on this earth.... as ANY of them could be tortured and killed for the wrongs of their parents.

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She was an irrational extraverted feeler. She should have been removed from the room before this began.

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She was too sensitive. There were many other children's lives and millions of lives in grave danger here. She shouldn't have been there at all.

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She was too sensitive. There were many other children's lives and millions of lives in grave danger here. She shouldn't have been there at all.


That's exactly what I thought all through the movie.You could tell she was nervous, sensitive and not " cut out " for that aspect of International security FBI.
I think Carrie-Anne Moss Nailed the part but I was getting tired fast with the needless back and forth. It was killing the movie, not adding suspense and was making everyone look like a bunch of amateurs

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She's a woman so irrational. Nuff said.

I would have cut the children to pieces if that's what's necessary.

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or they could just announced his demands and agreed!!!

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Coz lifes too short to listen to Madlib

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THANK YOU!!
Everyone here was missing the important point, and falling for the same trap the terrorist set in the film.
There was another choice other than becoming a monster.
Simply make the announcement, without even any need to reveal the source, or any need to act on the demands.
Instead everyone is choosing to show their inner monster and risk millions of lives.
Also the terrorist already expected that his wife and children would be killed by the bomb, so murdering innocent mother and children also just proves you to be a monster and allows millions to die unnecessarily.

"He didn't ask us to do anything, he just asked the President to announce it. Might save a few million people."

Where was a simple way out with 0 loss of life.

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Agent "We can't do this" Brody was a pain in the ass.

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The whole movie is about H doing his stuff without people expressingly telling him to. This is the same, she was willing to see him do it, as long as it wasn't her fault, the bombs are not her fault either. Now remember, H said he would only do it, and since she's a hypocrite (not unlike most in there, maybe minus the CIA guy and the top level guy), the show stops there.


To be fair though, I think many people would behave like her.

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