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What is the real problem, here?


Seriously.

This is someone who has CLEARLY and indisputably expressed a clear intention of killing over a million human beings in what is clearly the worst instance of single-person genocide in all of human history.

There's no question they've done this, there is no doubt about his intent or will.

By that action, he's placed himself outside the realm of humanity, and possesses no claim to "civil" rights of any kind, no claim to the treatment owed to any "decent human being". Because face it: HE'S NOT.

Do whatever you want to to him to protect the human lives he's threatening. I see no problem with this. I fear far more for the basic humanity of the people tasked with obtaining the information than I do for said monster.

The only real, justifiable question here is when placing the wife and children to the task for the purpose of obtaining information from him. Are their lives, their humanity, to suffer for his monstrous nature? Unfortunately, yes, because the question of one,two, three lives, no matter how innocent, weighted against that of MILLIONS -- equally innocent -- yes, the scales tip against them.

If there was ANY question about the knowledge to be obtained, yes, you can't put that scale into play. But when you have that monster to be neutralized, yes, the scale comes into play. And the few must suffer for the clear, indisputed safety of the VAST many.

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I kind of felt the same way. It would have been a much more interesting film if we were unsure of his guilt when the torture started.

Please consider me as an alternative to suicide

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Couldnt of put it better!

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It's easy to think that way from your couch, but probably harder once you've hold the kids' hands.

There's also the belief that if you have to be a monster to defeat another monster, what will the end be like?

Now I'm not saying you're wrong, and yet I'm not saying you're right, and that's why I love that movie: it makes me wonder what I would pick and I have no clue, but everytime I watch it (just did) it messes me up for a while...

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idiot. this is not about a terrorist, this is about us. what are our values, what are our limits? and by torturing someone like him, we turn into him, we become him.

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He lost all sympathy when the mall bomb went off

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this is why most people like yourself are not a moral compass of any kind, because to you it's a simple logical conclusion, it's too easy for yourself to think of doing the unthinkable.
thats why samuel's character chose carrie's character, because it wasnt an easy choice for her, it was an impossible choice.

because why defend a country that is ok with murdering or torturing kids and women? maybe it would be best to let the bombs go off, something is clearly wrong with the human species.

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my sources tell me that, this is fiction, kind of like a movie

therefore, it's [another] hypothetical situation


the question is, as a society, do we want to torture?
[personally, i vote no]

look at the governments that have tortured...

marc


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your entire comment was rhetorical and pointless.
you mention that the situation is fictional and hypothetical, but it is a very REAL world issue, that is currently happening. trump wants to do this and worse to muslims, he said so during his campaign, the majority of trump supporters agreed, but the majority of america did not agree with this.

it's a very real issue and not hypothetical. hell it's the reason american people wanted guantonamo bay closed down, because of the torture of muslim terrorists.

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