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Confused and dazed - Gina's flat SPOILER

posted 16 years ago by cobalt_blueuk
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Saw this last night so I've had a few hours to think about it. I still don't get it. It seemed to me to have been cut on the editors floor, leaving whole gaps in the script with little meaning.

Anyhow, I have a question. How come Gina doesn't know where she lives? Or was this the doppleganger? We see her follow "Gina 2" up to the flat. Later on, we hear her talking to her brother who mentions that's her flat and then the doorkeeper hands her the keys.

I'm confused by the whole film.

[–] inverclacky 16 years ago

Sigh... The reason Gina doesn't know where she lives is because that isnt the real Gina.

After the shower scene about 15 minutes into the movie we see Gina's doppleganger being created because the hand that wipes the mirror switches from right to left as the perspective changes to behind the mirror.

It is the twin in the phonebox, she follows the original Gina to the flat where she kills her.

Afterwards she doesn't remember because of the car accident and thinks she is the real one.

Her brother tells her later the flat is hers, she goes there and discovers the body of the original Gina and her memory comes flooding back.

The reason the doorman gives her the keys is because he thinks she is the real Gina.

I hope this makes sense.

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[–] blythefan2000 16 years ago

I think this film could have been really good, but I agree it feels as if it has been cut too much leaving a lot of guesswork to be done by the viewers. I also found it very slow moving in the first 45 minutes. I also didn't twig that that scrap yard dog was fighting it's doppelgänger but maybe I was just being dim.

It reminds me of a film I saw about 6 years ago which had a similar plot involving mirrors and some woman but I just cant remember the name of it.

[–] mboj 14 years ago

Guesswork is a good thing surely. I'd much rather have a film boggle my brain then have every little thing explained for me.

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[–] StoicBlade 14 years ago

Inverclaky: The Gina in the phone-box does NOT ACT like a doppelganger. That was why the movie was so stupid. The set up made no sense because her initial doppelganger personality did not match the personality of the other doppelgangers. Besides, were they supposed to be a doppelganger family? Stupid.

[–] grewy47 16 years ago

i watched it last night i dont get it either and did u notice something behind the mirror in one scene???

[–] z-justmakesense 16 years ago

...Which got me thinking about something that doesn't make sense. When the Evil Gina was in the phone booth and saw herself, she looked disturbed and curious about what she saw. The evil G, knowing she is who she is, shouldn't have been so disturbed or surprised. This is before the accident.

[–] grewy47 16 years ago

i know what your saying its all to *beep* up!! i was getting well in to it then none of it made sense like the mirror broke on its own im sure of it

[–] DoctorDrake 15 years ago

They are exact duplicates, only the dupes that came through the mirror are evil. Same lives, sames relationships, same work, etc. The evil mirror-universe twin was created when the real Gina went to work. So she stepped into Gina's flat, knowing exactly where she was. Later she went to a phone booth to call Stephan, presumably checking if the evil Stephan was already there.

Now if you watch that part again, you'll see that the 'confused' part could also be interpreted as just being cautious. She sees the real her passing by, thinking she must hurry back to kill her, to take over her life before things get more complicated by having two of the same persons walking around.

When she goes back to the apartment, instead of waiting to see where the elevator stops, she's waiting to be sure that the real her is in the apartment already, so she won't bump into herself in the hallway. She also waits around the corner so the doorman doesn't see her again, since she just went into the elevator. After she went up to the apartment, we see her driving away in her car pretty confident. Now we know why.

So, given these scenes, it does all make sense. The only thing that bugs me is that there really was no need to 'chase' the car by running after it, and in the garage staring at the Jeep. These two things create the 'confused' illusion, so the viewer — seeing this part for the first time — doesn't know that this is the evil Gina we're seeing. Personally, I always find this rather cheap. Like I said, it isn't bad per se since it does fit, but it's always an easy way to take a thin plot and add a twist.

Fortunately that's also reflected in the rating of this movie — although that has probably more to do with the rest of the uninspired plot than with this misdirection.

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[–] ian-wr 15 years ago

I can't believe how much confusion this issue is causing on this board! The Gina in the phone-box is the real Gina.She then follows the car back to her flat and is murdered by the doppleganger.(the audience do not discover this until the flashback near the end)It is the doppleganger we follow for the bulk of the movie,having been cleverly tricked by the film-maker's into assuming it is the real Gina.Incredible how so many obviouslly intelligent people just cannot grasp this!

[–] metallican00 14 years ago

i think you might be wrong, the gina in the phonebooth is not the real gina

towards the end of the movie, evil gina calls her brother and says that before the accident she saw a woman that looked like her and followed her to the pembridge house.

i dont understand why a doppleganger would forget they are a doppleganger anyway. car crash makes evil gina forget she's the evil one... ok

[–] manchester_england2004 14 years ago

There are two interpretations about which Gina is in the phone box that I think are equally valid possibilities but you raised my central problem with THE BROKEN.

How could the doppelganger forget who she is just because of the car crash? And if she did lose her memory about some things, how could she think she is the real Gina and act like the real Gina?

[–] manchester_england2004 14 years ago

I take a balanced view of the theories given. IMO both your interpretation that we see the real Gina in the phone box and the opposite interpretation that sees the doppelganger there instead are equally valid possibilities.

[–] Bublenutz 13 years ago

The movie is broken, with so may loop holes and inconstancies, I am surprised I made it through this piece of crap and NO THIS IS NOT LIKE BODY SNATCHERS. BODY SNATCHERS at least reveals that it's an alien invasion, this piece of crap tells you nothing! And yes I expect an explanation of what's going on with so much counting on this to bring the film together.

[–] jclark0808 13 years ago

I actually think that the Gina swap had been successful up until the crash.. that perhaps the doppleganger Gina killed real Gina in the apartment, but then, remember before the crash, she got caught by her reflection in the rearview, I'm thinking Real Gina was sent back to the mirror-world, but then somehow "killed" doppleganger Gina in the car crash and came back to life that way. The reason she doesn't remember some of the stuff leading up to it was - because she was dead leading up to the crash! That's why she seems less like the evil dopplegangers. Hers was a fluke, a mess-up, whereas the other dopplegangers made their transitions flawlessly. That also explains why her doppleganger in the mirror still haunts her, like after her bath around the 40 min mark... well after the car accident scene.

[–] hollyholly 13 years ago

now this theory i like. it actually makes sense, although im not sure if the script writer was that clever

I actually think that the Gina swap had been successful up until the crash.. that perhaps the doppleganger Gina killed real Gina in the apartment, but then, remember before the crash, she got caught by her reflection in the rearview, I'm thinking Real Gina was sent back to the mirror-world, but then somehow "killed" doppleganger Gina in the car crash and came back to life that way. The reason she doesn't remember some of the stuff leading up to it was - because she was dead leading up to the crash! That's why she seems less like the evil dopplegangers. Hers was a fluke, a mess-up, whereas the other dopplegangers made their transitions flawlessly. That also explains why her doppleganger in the mirror still haunts her, like after her bath around the 40 min mark... well after the car accident scene.