I mean seriously what did she contribute to society? How did her dying hurt the world? I'm very confused on this and just can't figure out why her death was such a tragedy. If anything Walt did the world a favor.
"I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine
You are a guy who believes all of Walt's actions are justified which makes me question your psyche as well as your morality.
shareWalt probably saw the death as justified since it would be the wakeup call needed to get Jesse to come clean again. At least, that's how I interpret Walt's perspective. In theory, he should've tried to save Jane, but his decision not to shows that he's crossed a line and is a point where he can't go back.
shareDepends on the perspective. To Walt, she was dangerous to their criminal endeavors and posed a threat. He didnt save her because he felt like both him and Jesse would be better off if she was out of the picture.
Jesse was deeply in love with her. To him, it was most definitely a tragedy.
lmao TELL EM !
shareit indirectly caused the death of 167 people who had nothing to do with it
apply yourself
She was a junkie scumbag manipulative piece of crap. 100% deserved to die.
Yes she deserved to die! And I hope she burns in hell! *Samuel L Jackson voice*
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She was a troubled and misguided person, but her death by wilful negligence felt as cruel, cowardly, and sad as Andrea's murder.
shareExcept that Andrea was completely innocent. Jane on the other hand was an 18 month recovering addict, and she allowed Jesse to move in even though she suspected he could be a bad influence, based on his need to pay his rent in cash. She later mentioned to him that she knew he was a drug dealer. From that point on, her chances of backsliding increased substantially.
From that point on, you can apply some blame to both Jesse and Jane, but it started with her letting him move in, IMO.
This ^
Agree 100%
I can get on board that Andrea was more blameless than Jane and made no conscious decision that directly led to her murder, however she herself was a recovering addict who still decided to shack up with a criminal drug dealer/producer though she had less baggage than Jane other than Brock.
And while Jane was more culpable to a certain extent, she still did not do enough to deserve what happened to her; she was certainly more innocent than Victor and Mike (who also did not really deserve to get killed the way they did).
And while Jane was more culpable to a certain extent, she still did not do enough to deserve what happened to her; she was certainly more innocent than Victor and Mike (who also did not really deserve to get killed the way they did).
You could rephrase that and say almost no character in the show deserved to get killed the way they did. The only exceptions being the Neo-Nazis, Todd, and Lydia.
How long had Gus been running that operation without any problems? He'd been running it for years with no problems, not even any suspicions from the cops that he was running a meth business on the sidelines. And then Walt entered his orbit and basically ruined it all. Mike said just as much before Walt killed him.
shareWasn't the superlab new?
shareYes it was.
And it was actually Jesse who initially caused the problems by going after gus' dealers. That was what started all the problems that followed between Gus and Walt. Things were going well until that happened.
More acurately, didn't Walt cause all the problems that ensued by tittle-tattling on Jesse to Gus..... about Jesse's plan to get revenge on the dealers for Combo's death and such? Walt could have butted out!
Matrixflower :)
I'll go back even further and say all Gus' problems stem from his own ego, to hire Walt, to get that extra few percent purity that Gale was pushing for. His initial instincts that Gale's purity level was good enough would have saved him, but he let Gale talk him into Heisenberg grade meth.
Then he allowed Walt to trick him into firing Gale and hiring Jesse, who he knew was a junkie...his next mistake.
Gus had ego problems, just as much as Walt did...and it nailed him in the end, including having to be the one to personally go into Hector's room to kill him, even though he had a "sense" that something bad could happen (like the car bomb).
very good onya
Matrixflower :)
If you want to take it a step further than yes, very true...good point. But he did that to try to avoid problems with Gus for him and Jesse. But I agree, he should have handled those dealers with Jesse as Jesse had initially asked him to instead of running to tell Gus.
I mentioned in another post but they should have done it and not let it get back to them...even if Walt had to find a 24 hour garage or something. He was resourceful and could have figured something out I'm sure. Those two dealers were bound to have other enemies being in the drug game and though Gus and mike may have had their suspicions that it was Walt and Jesse, if they properly covered their tracks they wouldn't have been able to actually know for sure and prove it was them. Granted it would have looked very coincidental.
But avoiding the chain reaction that followed would have been worth the effort.
Sure..... but Walt always thinks he knows better. It was Jesse's friend (Jesse was avenging) not Walt's - so not Walt's business. And not smart of Walt to dump their prior meth-related problems on Gus's doorstep - especially knowing that Gus had been hesitant in the first place re hiring Walt with a junkie side-kick anyway.
Btw, the dealers didn't work for Gus.... Gus was a high end distributor. He didn't have anything to do business wise with the end product-(street)dealers.
Matrixflower :)
Btw, the dealers didn't work for Gus
Thank you...i was going to point that out. Those dealers most definitely worked for Gus. If they didn't, then what the hell would Gus care if they got killed? Lol
Dont know how you missed that
It's simple, you do not kill a drug lord's dealers: as soon as somebody kills his dealers and gets away with it, it's open season on his men from anyone who wants a piece of his turf, because he's proven he won't defend them. Gus ordered everybody to play nice and let him handle things, and the very next evening Jesse and Walt had killed those dealers even though they gave Gus their word that they would never even speak to them again. They've proven themselves both capable of violence and disobedient; Gus cannot afford that risk.
shareHey what's up dmc...I'm not 100% sure if you're replying to my post or not, but I was only asking that kinda rhetorically, it was directed towards matrix flower lol
I knew those guys were gus's soldiers :)
If you weren't responding to me sorry my bad
Ive been drinking so I'm gonna get off here now...goodnight friends lol
Hippo: what did she contribute to society?
How did her dying hurt the world?