i was wondering, when she was total bitch, all the time becomes transformed sudden in to normal or good understanding wife, or person after season 5 part 1.
its not about walt quitting the cooking, because walt did it too in season 2 and season 4. but she didnt forgive walt, she further punished him.
she becomes total likable character from the season 5 part 2.
How come she feels sorry for walt?
Are you talking about the final episodes? Probably because she knew he was about to turn himself in or die doing something or other. Not to mention the fact that there was finally a sense of finality to those two and any relationship left between them.
shareyes i agree, but even before skyler realized Walt got the cancer back, she was good and understood Walt.
If skyler understood walt and forgave him before, things would not have gone too far. what do u think?
Skyler started to understand Walt at the end of S2 - due to her experience of the tax fraud, specifically Ted's identical rationalization of doing it for family. It took S3 for Skyler to come to acceptance of Walt's activities.
However, she didn't understand thoroughly enough. Because it turned out that Ted's rationalization wasn't as strong as his own ego (buying the luxury car), and Walt wanted an empire, not just to provide for family, a desire that was all about propping up a fragile ego and its insatiable needs. That is why Skyler never came around to accepting Walt until it was all too late.
But there is Walt-worshipping going on, whereby any character who understands, forgives, and generally allies with him witout question is seen as "good." Which is to miss what the show was about.
"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson
You've missed so much. Evidence that Walt primarily wanted to feed his ego happened as early as ep. 105. This is just Walt-worshipping.
"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson
However, she didn't understand thoroughly enough. Because it turned out that Ted's rationalization wasn't as strong as his own ego (buying the luxury car), and Walt wanted an empire, not just to provide for family, a desire that was all about propping up a fragile ego and its insatiable needs. That is why Skyler never came around to accepting Walt until it was all too late.
Good points, dmcreif. I think it's possible she did realize this on some level, but that this awareness was overwhelmed by her own need for power, similar to, although less extreme as his. As she said in ep. 504, Fifty-One, “I’m a coward. I can't go to the police. I can't stop laundering your money… I’ve got blood on my hands… I’m compromised too.”
"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson
“I’m a coward. I can't go to the police. I can't stop laundering your money… I’ve got blood on my hands… I’m compromised too.”
True. I'm not necessarily translating it quite that far -- what I'm getting at is the overall regret that kept knawing at her, an awareness that by that point had become almost all she could think about. She felt powerless against that flaw, so far in she was beyond redemption. All she could do then is protect the kids from herself and Walt.
For me a defining moment for Skyler's tug-of-war between conscience and desire to feel powerful - and a great bit of acting - was in Ep. 501 Live Free Or Die, when she arrived at Ted's hospital room. At first she's mortified, not only by his condition, but also by his abject fear of her. You can watch her shift from mortification and shame to gratification. She ends up relishing the knowledge that she is feared, that she has such power. It's a lot more subtle than "I'm the one who knocks," but the spirit is not much different.
Skyler's ordeal it seems to me was bound up in the impossibility of resolving that inner conflict. Walt resolved it early and relatively easily. Much is made of his chemistry genius, but he had an equal genius for self-delusion. Skyler had to work at that way harder than he did.
"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson
Off topic here, but did you know that when I look over at Better Call Saul, I notice that all the main characters there combine traits of Breaking Bad's main characters? Kim, for instance, I see as being like a combination of Skyler and Jesse, in that she's as willing as the protagonist to do amoral things, but draws a line at how far she'll go. So Kim is okay with doing something like con KEN WINS, but is not okay with Jimmy doing an unauthorized Davis & Main ad (in part because the fallout affected her, busting her down to the grunt work of doc review).
Likewise, Chuck is like a combination of Walt and Skyler. He's duplicitous like Jimmy, but he stays within the law whereas Jimmy will basically borderline break the law to achieve his goals (which is the Skyler comparison). But then there are hints that he's got shades of Walt's self-destructive pride.
I think it's possible she did realize this on some level, but that this awareness was overwhelmed by her own need for power, similar to, although less extreme as his.
Yes. Skyler had a considerable amount of pride herself. She said she'd rather be seen as Bonnie than an idiot. So basically she didn't turn Walt in because she didn't want that to reflect badly on her, for people to think she was stupid for not noticing earlier what her husband was up to, and for her to lose face.
Skyler got self-aware of what her pride had done to her A LOT earlier than when Walt realized it. Walt only realized and admitted it at the end, while Skyler seemed to have realized it after seeing Ted in the hospital
Yes. Skyler had a considerable amount of pride herself. She said she'd rather be seen as Bonnie than an idiot. So basically she didn't turn Walt in because she didn't want that to reflect badly on her, for people to think she was stupid for not noticing earlier what her husband was up to, and for her to lose face.
But there is Walt-worshipping going on, whereby any character who understands, forgives, and generally allies with him witout question is seen as "good." Which is to miss what the show was about.
People have an unusual tendency to relate to the main protagonist and hate on anyone who goes against him.
Yes, the majority of the time, but that's not BB. We're encouraged to feel for Walt, but not necessarily to root for him under any circumstances.
We're also not encouraged to hate on on anyone who goes against him, because we are given alternative views apart from his own, including objective ones.
The episode Fly was evidence that even Walt was aware of his depravity. It took sleep-deprivation and psychotropic drugs - a mix of sleeping pills and caffeine - to pry that awareness out from its safe compartmentalization: "It's all contaminated."
For that reason, I think it's a safe bet that Walt-worshippers do not particularly like Fly.
"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson
The episode Fly was evidence that even Walt was aware of his depravity. It took sleep-deprivation and psychotropic drugs - a mix of sleeping pills and caffeine - to pry that awareness out from its safe compartmentalization: "It's all contaminated."
Good catch/memory -- I have no recollection of the wobbly table leg!
That's faithful to life. Emotion so painful the mind escapes by dissociation. One way is to lock onto something. I've done it myself, many times.
"You must not judge what I know by what I find words for." - Marilynne Robinson
He couldn't control Skyler or the health of Junior growing up...but he could control making the highest purity meth...and he certainly could control Jesse.
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