Who would be so rash in just a matter of a few moments and what other three additional sane parties would cooperate? Especially after watching the movie I'd be like 'just hold on a moment. I've seen a movie like this and we end up alright'. But even without watching the movie I'd think about what would Turok the dinosaur hunter do, and wake my kid up and tell him 'son, it's time to man up or die, literally. You're about to be the first 7 y/o to become a man in a day. Ready?' Then I'd start banging my new hot wife to get us some new soldiers ASAP, offer the old couple a pair of bullets if they're not up for the challenge but urge them to help out anyway, not all quite in that order geez, to just take less than a minute to decide all of our fates like that after getting that far? Come on... Bh that time you'd've grown a whole other set of balls, might as well use em right?
Hit it exactly on the mark... except for the strange rant towards the second half. l couldn't believe they would at least think for juts a moment and think about their situation, just THINK about it. Why would they see a hopeless situation and tell themselves "well that's it, time to die guys l got a gun" l couldn't believe they would jump straight to killing themselves that quickly. Very unbelievable ending and didn't even make me feel emotionally bad for the father after seeing help arrived shortly after killing his son and 3 others. lt really just pissed me off more than anything that the director would choose this type of ending.
they did think about it. Since long before they left. They agreed on "going as long as the fuel lasts". Which means the fuel was already their last hope. They saw a massive monster in the mist which made it look like they were not nearly close to the edge and realized if they left the car it'd only be to their deaths. So they instead agreed to a quick death. If you watched the movie again, but trying to feel the main character, you'd realize it.
If you watched the movie again you would see the massive monster they saw was far earlier in their drive & not when they were close to the edge of the mist. Nothing implied if they left the car it was *only* death. The main character constantly risked his life and pain/suffering throughout the movie from as early as the squid scene, so his sudden cowardly desire for suicide was surprisingly out of character.
It's a big morbid stretch to say "going as long as the fuel lasts" was a 1 sentence mass suicide pact among 4adults and a child. Mass suicide and murdering your own son is not something 4 sane adults would expect to cram into a 1 sentence discussion with one's car fuel... mass suicide is an extreme and vital topic to just casually brush over. It would have been more believable if only the dad was portrayed to suddenly snap or mentally break (even if it would be out of character), but not all 4 once unique adults to be all suicidal.
At that time they already lost all hope of rescue. As someone stated the fuel was the last glimmer of hope they clanged on to, after that they couldn't do anything more. They didn't know what waited outside the doors but figured it could be worse than death, and David had already promised the monsters wouldn't get him. David and the gang figured they were screwed either way, so they decided to rather die safe than being mutilated by monsters.
I agree they felt they lost all hope of rescue & figured they were screwed given the mass suicide, but that wasn't rational or even believable (if that's what you mean by ironic). Worse, it was like 4 unique characters suddenly shared the same irrational brain (no discussion needed) which made the ending so out-of-left-field fake & forced. The dad constantly risked being mutilated by monsters throughout the movie (as early as the squid) so it was out of character for him to suddenly decide to be coward & give up, nevertheless, if it was only the dad who suddenly snapped it would have been believable even if out of character.
The fuel shouldn't have been their last glimmer of hope as there were numerous signs of hope. They drove for how long & only saw/heard 1 creature who may have been a plant-eater or spider-eater for all they knew. Next, they knew some creatures were attracted to light & they just drove a very long time with literally 10 bright lights on their vehicle... all without a single attack. Those lights are also warm (no heat-tracking creatures?) & when they stopped their vehicle when they still had gas they had no attacks either. The mist also severely limited their vision so who knows how many buildings had people in them. It would also be quite pretentious of them to think no one except them could have survived through this long. Given that a handful of unarmed (except 1 gun) untrained mere civilians killed & scared off many of the creatures why wouldn't they think the strongest military in the world might not soon save them? It's not like they were struggling for years or it was "69 Days Later" or even "28 Days Later"... it was only a few days.
They had no idea what was outside their vehicle as they were miles away from the store now. The mist itself never hurt anyone, it only hindered their vision & limited their knowledge so as far as they knew there were friendly intelligent aliens right outside. There was no hopeless apocalypse evidence. Fear of the unknown or fear of the dark is a poor excuse for mass suicide & murdering one's son. Worse, the dad shot his son while his son was awake & looking at his dad when the son had a look of surprise & fear in his eyes. We're to believe the dad couldn't think of a more humane way to kill his son or believe the dad just didn't care that surprise & fear were the last thoughts of his son about him?
The best part of the ending was the poetic justice the dad got for his irrational rash behavior.
I agree it was a terrible way to end things... mainly due to the fact the it felt rushed. It would have been totally fine for the same ending to occur if they had given a few extra seconds or minutes of someone crying to die asking for death they just couldnt go on any longer, I know the nod to eachother was suppose to signify this and the counting of the bullets but it was just too far of a stretch to end things so abruptly after all they went through I highly doubt it would have gone down the exact same way.. It felt like mainly like the director wanted to just push a hard emotional ending on us because he couldnt find a better way to do so so he just felt group suicide would work... Anyone who went through that much trouble would have at least tried to leave the vehicle and start a new life in some building and board it up with supplies... or constantly try surviving the mist outside.. none of which they decided instead they killed the cast off to try and push an emotional ending that felt tacked on... and not natural.... I could see the older people asking for death before anyone else going along with it and even then I feel like they would have backed out.. after the old women and man died... It really was poorly executed. If there ever is a remake hopefully they go for more scary monsters and more terror and perhaps a story about people living in the mist instead of hiding in a building or car. Or perhaps stuck miles away from buildings lost in the woods during the mist. I like the whole holed up in a store lets survive story but its over used too many stories do it and after awhile your left wondering why your still in a *beep* store.... and relived when the film takes it outside of the 4 walled prison.
While I did sorta like the bitter irony they were going for in the ending, I agree with you Headbanger. Rushing into murder/suicide just because they were out of gas was pretty forced and stupid. Maybe it would have worked a bit better if they waited until a monster was approaching the jeep and he killed everyone to spare them an impending grisly death but then the army showed up and killed it right after he did the deed.
I'm genuinely convinced that every movie would be better with Arnold Schwarzenegger in it.
The ending was lame. No other way to put it. Out of context. I guess darabont found some of kings stash while he was writing. didn't man up and get input on it afterwards. *beep* didn't have the guts to film the hits, at least that would have given it a lame, but side view of his end.
I absolutely loved the ending. This movie gets it right. This seems like a more believable ending to a horror movie. You guys are idiots. After seeing all those weird creatures that you can't seem to kill, you run out of gas in the middle of the mist, and you are still hunted. Suicide would seem like the right way out. Everything was just so bleak at that point. I would pull the trigger too. Eff getting eaten by a mothereffing monster.
I agree it was a bad ending, and almost ruined the whole movie for me. It was also very inconsistent for these characters since it came out of nowhere. These characters, especially the main character, were the farthest from the "giving up" type and would've waited much longer before pulling the trigger. Plus it made no sense that all of them agreed to die without debating it or even saying, "Now hold on a minute." They should've stuck with the book's ending.
"It was also very inconsistent for these characters since it came out of nowhere. These characters, especially the main character, were the farthest from the "giving up" type and would've waited much longer before pulling the trigger."
It's hard to say something like this is "inconsistent" for these characters, especially when they're scared $hitless and in a world that's literally gone mad.
I'm more or less on the same page. I thought it was stupid to give up so quickly especially after fighting so intensely at the supermarket. Personally, I would have at least waited until I was really hungry or completely surrounded by aliens.
Man, why do people keep saying it's unrealistic? I mean has no one even thought to put themselves in those people's shoes? At that point in time, the only thing you were waiting on was death. Leaving the car would mean certain death, staying in the car would mean certain death. It's a hopeless situation.
You're literally between a rock and a hard place. The only satisfaction you can have is ending it quick. Getting skinned alive, dying of dehydration, and dying of starvation, surrounded by your own feces and filth sounds like the worst death possible.
People aren't even thinking about this, but you're cramped in a car. There is no water, there is no food, and there is no place to relieve yourself. You can't even stretch your body well. You're sitting in your own filth, waiting around for a monster to rip you and your family apart. Think about this, people.
I'd have done what Thomas Jane's character did too. Yes, we can all play Monday morning quarterback, but a lot of people would do the same.
If you read more posts here or other commentary elsewhere on the net you would know many people have thought to put themselves in those people's shoes. Many events throughout the movie (including their car ride) showed it was not certain death or hopeless. Think about it.
"If you read more posts here or other commentary elsewhere on the net you would know many people have thought to put themselves in those people's shoes. Many events throughout the movie (including their car ride) showed it was not certain death or hopeless."
People have tried to place themselves in their shoes, but the thing, though, is that no one can state with any absolute certainty that they may or may not do the things Drayton would do in such a situation, especially one in which the world has literally gone insane and filled with monsters, both human and nonhuman.
By that logic the director could of had them do anything, even start eating each other for fun & we must believe that really might happen. But it's more than that as I can accept the unlikely situation that the once courageous hero suddenly snapped and decided having his beloved son's last thoughts be utter fear of him while he killed him without any explanation, much less his son's approval... and that was in some sick twisted way in his mind a good idea. What is beyond realistic, is for all 4 once-sane unique characters all at the same time to all decide on mass suicide together without any real discussion as if they all shared the same mind.
Further, nothing in the movie suggested "the world has literally gone insane and filled with monsters". In fact, their drive through the mist implied the opposite if anything. More importantly, with the mist severally limiting their vision/knowledge why would they be so pretentious and full of themselves to think the store was the only building with survivors and only they could have survived and killed these monsters up to this point? They weren't navy SEALS and geniuses. The store was filled with mere unarmed civilians (except 1 gun) with internal conflict, yet most people at the store survived all the monster attacks & they even killed several of them. So why wouldn't they think the world's strongest armed military couldn't be around the corner or maybe a friendly alien species? By the same token, just because there were several dangerous monsters by the store doesn't mean they were everywhere in the mist - as such I wasn't surprised at all to see the military at the end. The mist itself never physically hurt anyone, it only limited their vision.
"By that logic the director could of had them do anything, even start eating each other for fun & we must believe that really might happen."
Mental midgets and psychopaths, probably, but ordinary people like Drayton - again, it's not that farfetched to believe that they would do what Drayton did, especially when left sitting in a mist-filled road with no gas, no supplies, a great deal of uncertainty and a gun.
"Further, nothing in the movie suggested "the world has literally gone insane and filled with monsters"."
So, the sights of albino pterodactyls, giant creatures (including that hundred foot thing with six legs that walked by their car) and spiders isn't suggestive of such?
"In fact, their drive through the mist implied the opposite if anything."
Again, the giant creatures and the body of Drayton's wife in those spider webs doesn't imply as such?
"More importantly, with the mist severally limiting their vision/knowledge why would they be so pretentious and full of themselves to think the store was the only building with survivors and only they could have survived and killed these monsters up to this point?"
I think you meant "severely" instead of "severally", but to answer your point, I don't think they're so arrogant to believe in such, but they had nothing much to go on. No communications, no radio, just jack and $hit, and jack left town.
"They weren't navy SEALS and geniuses. The store was filled with mere unarmed civilians (except 1 gun) with internal conflict, yet most people at the store survived all the monster attacks & they even killed several of them. So why wouldn't they think the world's strongest armed military couldn't be around the corner or maybe a friendly alien species?"
How were Drayton and co. to know? The people in the store killed several of the creatures, that's true, but by that same token they were even worse than the creatures themselves. Is it a stretch to believe that "the world's strongest armed forces" might not be around the corner, let alone a "friendly" alien species? After all the crap they've been through, Drayton and co had no way of knowing, and that lack of knowledge was what made it terrifying for them.
Mental midgets and psychopaths, probably, but ordinary people like Drayton - again, it's not that farfetched to believe that they would do what Drayton did, especially when left sitting in a mist-filled road with no gas, no supplies, a great deal of uncertainty and a gun.
Murder their own kid while the kid is looking at him in fear without telling the kid the reason or permission because of uncertainty... that's something someone mentally ill would do. The idea that 4 sane adults all just happen to have the same mind too and be bobble heads to mass suicide + murder of a child is farfetched.
So, the sights of albino pterodactyls, giant creatures (including that hundred foot thing with six legs that walked by their car) and spiders isn't suggestive of such?
Again, just because the monster spiders were at store and Drayton's home doesn't mean they were everywhere in the world. It would be like saying humans were quietly running around everywhere in the mist & we just didn't see them.
The movie showed the pterodactyls attacked the store because they were attracted to the lights in the store. They slowly drove who knows how long with 10 bright headlights on their vehicle all without a single attack or sight of a pterodactyl, including the time they stopped the vehicle completely. Those headlights and the vehicle itself were also quite good heat generators, so no heat-tracking creatures interested in this warm slowly moving object?
Their entire long drive with their 10 bright warm headlights was quiet and peaceful without a single attack. They only saw 1 creature their whole long drive and it was that hundred foot thing with six legs which, unlike most wild animals, didn't even notice their relatively-loud bright warm vehicle.
I think you meant "severely" instead of "severally", but to answer your point, I don't think they're so arrogant to believe in such, but they had nothing much to go on. No communications, no radio, just jack and $hit, and jack left town. How were Drayton and co. to know? The people in the store killed several of the creatures, that's true, but by that same token they were even worse than the creatures themselves. Is it a stretch to believe that "the world's strongest armed forces" might not be around the corner, let alone a "friendly" alien species? After all the crap they've been through, Drayton and co had no way of knowing, and that lack of knowledge was what made it terrifying for them.
Exactly, Drayton and co. had no way of knowing if there were creatures (good or bad) or humans (good or bad) outside or just nothing there. Every day people have a lack of knowledge that's potentially deadly (bad drivers on the road, unpredictable lethal weather, criminals, hiking trips go terribly wrong, brain-eating amoebas, flesh-eating bacteria, terrorists, etc) and there aren't mass suicides over that lack of knowledge (unless they have a mental illness, like Munchausen syndrome). For a once-sane person to commit suicide because of a lack of information is improbable, but for 4 once-sane adults to all at the same time coincidentally agree to mass suicide + child murder because of it is unrealistic. reply share
I generally agree with your points Andrew but I'd like to add one more that makes their action even less plausible. During their relatively unmolested drive we never see any efforts to seek gas or refuge. They saw the gas gauge. They knew just mindlessly driving the car out of gas was foolish and yet that's exactly what they did. Were we supposed to assume they had made some efforts? Was the movie running too long to show this, to show us HOW it was that the fight and hope they had carried with them from the store was now extinguished? No, it was definitely not time constraints. Darabont could NOT show us this because for this ending twist to have the message and impact he wants they have to do this in an obviously preemptive way, they have to UNEXPECTEDLY crack. He has to contrive and manipulate so clumsily. But this kind of cracking - no effort, no struggle, and then killing your own kid! before hope was well and truly lost, and before there was even an imminent threat! was so far out of character for our group of plucky fighters it was as if they had been replaced by defeatist impostors. (if you had a group of annoying defeatists all along then the end would have worked). We identify with the people in the car and when they do this we FEEL violated. All so the director can work in the shocking content of a dad blowing his own kid's head off and then see him punished by the 'twist'. This is a fool's gold ending. It's a low blow cheat! Low hanging rotten fruit any real writer would reject out of hand. It only works if you ignore the characters and their context. It only works if you rationalize all that away and start claiming that 'yes, it felt rushed' but 'we cannot imagine how they felt".
The director pushed the actions of these characters beyond the bounds of far-fetched & improbable and instantly jumped into the absurd realms of Bizarro World and Opposite Day for cheap shock value. As a result, I didn't care what happened to imposter Darabont and the ending left a bad aftertaste in my mouth as the imposters tainted all 4 characters & the movie.
"Murder their own kid while the kid is looking at him in fear without telling the kid the reason or permission because of uncertainty... that's something someone mentally ill would do."
A mentally ill person, or someone who's scared $hitless.
"The idea that 4 sane adults all just happen to have the same mind too and be bobble heads to mass suicide + murder of a child is farfetched."
People are capable of anything in the face of disaster.
"Exactly, Drayton and co. had no way of knowing if there were creatures (good or bad) or humans (good or bad) outside or just nothing there. Every day people have a lack of knowledge that's potentially deadly (bad drivers on the road, unpredictable lethal weather, criminals, hiking trips go terribly wrong, brain-eating amoebas, flesh-eating bacteria, terrorists, etc) and there aren't mass suicides over that lack of knowledge (unless they have a mental illness, like Munchausen syndrome). For a once-sane person to commit suicide because of a lack of information is improbable, but for 4 once-sane adults to all at the same time coincidentally agree to mass suicide + child murder because of it is unrealistic."
Except this was a disaster that no one foresaw and were completely unprepared for. For a once-sane person to commit suicide because of lack of information is improbable, that is true, but they may do so if things look incredibly bleak. Things have happened at the Louisiana Superdome during Hurricane Katrina, including three-four suicides, murders, vandals, etc.
"I generally agree with your points Andrew but I'd like to add one more that makes their action even less plausible. During their relatively unmolested drive we never see any efforts to seek gas or refuge. They saw the gas gauge. They knew just mindlessly driving the car out of gas was foolish and yet that's exactly what they did. Were we supposed to assume they had made some efforts? Was the movie running too long to show this, to show us HOW it was that the fight and hope they had carried with them from the store was now extinguished? No, it was definitely not time constraints. Darabont could NOT show us this because for this ending twist to have the message and impact he wants they have to do this in an obviously preemptive way, they have to UNEXPECTEDLY crack. He has to contrive and manipulate so clumsily. But this kind of cracking - no effort, no struggle, and then killing your own kid! before hope was well and truly lost, and before there was even an imminent threat! was so far out of character for our group of plucky fighters it was as if they had been replaced by defeatist impostors. (if you had a group of annoying defeatists all along then the end would have worked). We identify with the people in the car and when they do this we FEEL violated. All so the director can work in the shocking content of a dad blowing his own kid's head off and then see him punished by the 'twist'. This is a fool's gold ending. It's a low blow cheat! Low hanging rotten fruit any real writer would reject out of hand. It only works if you ignore the characters and their context. It only works if you rationalize all that away and start claiming that 'yes, it felt rushed' but 'we cannot imagine how they felt"."
You have some interesting points, but at the same time, with regards to your complaints about characters "being so far out of character", I heavily disagree with them - in relation to the story, which is all about communities and people compromising themselves in the face of disaster, allowing fear to cloud their judgements and thereby causing them to make some of the dumbest, heinous decisions and actions imaginable, the ending reinforced that theme even more. Drayton at a glance is a rational person, but at the same time, he and his fellow travellers were also hypocrites; they were the very things they criticised the people in the store of being. They may have gotten away from the store and the threat represented by the people within them, but that doesn't mean that Drayton and co were immune to fear, nor were they immune to bad decision-making - they're human. To have Drayton do what he did, it takes away any heroic certainty. Now, could they have drawn it out more, with scenes showing survival and a gradual descent of spirit? Perhaps, but there's the issue of pacing and the threat of having a story running on for too long, even the threat of making the ending predictable. As a movie, the ending works as a fine bookend to what the story is about. Could those aspects be fitted into a TV series? Possible.
A mentally ill person, or someone who's scared $hitless. People are capable of anything in the face of disaster.
Disasters happen every day to people & the only ones who murder their healthy children because of a disaster are the sick ones. Murdering children because someone is scared $hitless of the dark (aka the unknown in the mist) is not a valid defense and just pathetic. "Judge, I knowingly killed a young child on purpose because I personally was scared of monsters/thugs that weren't there... so can I go?" At best, he could plead insanity & as I said earlier I can accept the improbable chance of the once courageous dad that just suddenly went bat$hit crazy.
Except this was a disaster that no one foresaw and were completely unprepared for. For a once-sane person to commit suicide because of lack of information is improbable, that is true, but they may do so if things look incredibly bleak. Things have happened at the Louisiana Superdome during Hurricane Katrina, including three-four suicides, murders, vandals, etc.
And yet no mass suicides or anyone murdering their own kids during Hurricane Katrina despite the severity of the tragedy. Wikipedia claims 1 person committed suicide in the Louisiana Superdome, but lets assume 4. Speaking of probabilities, that's less than 0.03% of the people in the Superdome... and given how common depression is, out of the 15k-20k of people who were in the Superdome don't you think it's probable that most (or all) of the 4 who committed suicide may have already been suffering from depression or had thoughts of suicide *before* Katrina hit? Murderers, low-lifes and criminals taking advantage of people during a crisis is not unexpected, but these 4 adults in this movie were never portrayed as potential criminals with highly questionable ethics, much less child killers.
in relation to the story, which is all about communities and people compromising themselves in the face of disaster, allowing fear to cloud their judgements and thereby causing them to make some of the dumbest, heinous decisions and actions imaginable, the ending reinforced that theme even more.
Imagine if the Louisiana Superdome had stories of religious blood sacrifices and mass suicides after a mere 2-3days of the crisis... so yeah the actions of many of the people in this movie were far-fetched. I let the instant religious cult formation slide over the assumption that this small town was filled with mostly uneducated people who were already extremist religious fanatics/zealots waiting for a feather to tip them over into crazy land - it was no longer any-small-town, USA. Nevertheless, far-fetched can be entertaining... turning 4 once unique characters suddenly into sharing the same now crazy mind is not. When I learned the director created his own ending in this movie I was not surprised.
Drayton at a glance is a rational person,
Agreed, until the car ran out of gas anyways.
but at the same time, he and his fellow travellers were also hypocrites; they were the very things they criticised the people in the store of being.
Agreed.
nor were they immune to bad decision-making - they're human.
Epic bad decision making by victims in horror movies is such an overdone cliche that now there is a Geico commercial about it. This was epic bad decision making reinforcing that tired cliche.
Now, could they have drawn it out more, with scenes showing survival and a gradual descent of spirit? Perhaps, but there's the issue of pacing and the threat of having a story running on for too long, even the threat of making the ending predictable.
The pacing of the movie and avoiding the movie (or ending) being boring is part of the director's job (with the help of the editor). He's not working on minimum wage here. Further, the director had over 7minutes from the time they got into the vehicle to the point when they ran out of gas. Or anywhere else in the film really. No need to lengthen the film - the opportunity was there.
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"Disasters happen every day to people & the only ones who murder their healthy children because of a disaster are the sick ones. Murdering children because someone is scared $hitless of the dark (aka the unknown in the mist) is not a valid defense and just pathetic. "Judge, I knowingly killed a young child on purpose because I personally was scared of monsters/thugs that weren't there... so can I go?"
Yeah, Drayton at best would probably be charged with murder, if not manslaughter. However, his fears were not entirely unjustified - there were extenuating circumstances, so maybe he'd be given some leniency by the judge/court. Anna Pou was tried on criminal charges for murder in the Memorial Medical Center case but was not indicted.
"And yet no mass suicides or anyone murdering their own kids during Hurricane Katrina despite the severity of the tragedy. Wikipedia claims 1 person committed suicide in the Louisiana Superdome, but lets assume 4. Speaking of probabilities, that's less than 0.03% of the people in the Superdome... and given how common depression is, out of the 15k-20k of people who were in the Superdome don't you think it's probable that most (or all) of the 4 who committed suicide may have already been suffering from depression or had thoughts of suicide *before* Katrina hit?"
That does offer some food for thought. With that said, though, we may never know.
"When I learned the director created his own ending in this movie I was not surprised."
Based on something that was mentioned within King's novella and followed all the way through. Could it have been handled differently? Maybe.
"Epic bad decision making by victims in horror movies is such an overdone cliche that now there is a Geico commercial about it."
As are happy endings and endings that leave nothing but empty cliff hangers.
"This was epic bad decision making reinforcing that tired cliche."
But it goes further by having human decency, community and rationality overcome by self-interest and superstition, something that no other horror film had done before (as far as I know). Usually in these types of movies you'd think that communities would come together during times of crisis and show the best humanity has to offer, but instead the movie presents a complete inversion of that. Even lantern-jaw Drayton, the typical sort of guy that people tend to root for in movies, isn't immune.
"The pacing of the movie and avoiding the movie (or ending) being boring is part of the director's job (with the help of the editor). He's not working on minimum wage here. Further, the director had over 7minutes from the time they got into the vehicle to the point when they ran out of gas. Or anywhere else in the film really. No need to lengthen the film - the opportunity was there."
Yeah, Drayton at best would probably be charged with murder, if not manslaughter. However, his fears were not entirely unjustified - there were extenuating circumstances, so maybe he'd be given some leniency by the judge/court. Anna Pou was tried on criminal charges for murder in the Memorial Medical Center case but was not indicted.
Maybe indeed. A dad could be completely justified in thinking a stalker may assault, hurt, torture & even kill his child, but it would take a magic lawyer to spin that as a good reason why the dad deliberately killed his child. Claiming insanity due to extenuating circumstances is the only defense I could see that might offer leniency. Regardless, I think we can at least his actions were "some of the dumbest, heinous decisions and actions imaginable".
As are happy endings and endings that leave nothing but empty cliff hangers.
I don't mind happy endings or horrific evil endings. If all horror movies ended with (un)happy endings that would make them all more predictable. Even a cliff hanger movie ending is ok to me if done right. Watching villains or heroes do "some of the dumbest" actions imaginable is usually harder for me to swallow, except maybe in comedy.
But it goes further by having human decency, community and rationality overcome by self-interest and superstition, something that no other horror film had done before (as far as I know). Usually in these types of movies you'd think that communities would come together during times of crisis and show the best humanity has to offer, but instead the movie presents a complete inversion of that. Even lantern-jaw Drayton, the typical sort of guy that people tend to root for in movies, isn't immune.
True, except the execution of that concept at the ending was poorly done and rushed. There's no reason for Drayton and co. to instantly abandon their human decency and courage outside of the unreal idea that all 4 sane brave adults suddenly went crazy & cowardly. In comparison, Mrs.Carmody wasn't calling for blood sacrifices 5minutes after she started talking religion. We got to appreciate her character development with superstition, self-interest and power hunger warping into her "heinous decisions and actions" even if it was far-fetched. If they had taken a quiet nice church lady and within 5minutes twist her upside down into cult leader Mrs.Carmody with goons it would have also been out of left field, sloppy & rushed. Likewise, we learned Drayton had prior friction with his neighbor which made their later conflict more realistic. Murder and suicide are pretty heavy topics even individually to just nonchalantly skim over like asking if everyone wanted some gum, much less everyone agree to do.
Don't get me wrong, I still mostly enjoyed the movie but it was like a meal with hair strands in the last piece because the cook was in a rush.
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"Regardless, I think we can at least agree his actions were "some of the dumbest, heinous decisions and actions imaginable"."
Definitely, though both understandable and tragic.
"I don't mind happy endings or horrific evil endings. If all horror movies ended with (un)happy endings that would make them all more predictable. Even a cliff hanger movie ending is ok to me if done right. Watching villains or heroes do "some of the dumbest" actions imaginable is usually harder for me to swallow, except maybe in comedy."
I can understand that.
"True, except the execution of that concept at the ending was poorly done and rushed. There's no reason for Drayton and co. to instantly abandon their human decency and courage outside of the unreal idea that all 4 sane brave adults suddenly went crazy & cowardly. In comparison, Mrs.Carmody wasn't calling for blood sacrifices 5minutes after she started talking religion. We got to appreciate her character development with superstition, self-interest and power hunger warping into her "heinous decisions and actions" even if it was far-fetched. If they had taken a quiet nice church lady and within 5minutes twist her upside down into cult leader Mrs.Carmody with goons it would have also been out of left field, sloppy & rushed. Likewise, we learned Drayton had prior friction with his neighbor which made their later conflict more realistic. Murder and suicide are pretty heavy topics even individually to just nonchalantly skim over like asking if everyone wanted some gum, much less everyone agree to do. Don't get me wrong, I still mostly enjoyed the movie but it was like a meal with hair strands in the last piece because the cook was in a rush. "
I don't think they just went up crazy and cowardly, more like.....dispirited, which is somewhat understandable and what made Drayton and the story especially more tragic - to go so far only to crumble on the final curb without even realizing that help was just around a corner, which is a real kick in the pants. I can appreciate what you're saying, though, and I'm glad to have had a civil, intelligent conversation about this with you.
It seems more like you are the one who hasn't put any thought into what could happen if they didn't kill themselves.
For one, the idea of starving or dehydration suggests they weren't actually in as much danger as you said. It actually suggests the car is safe which suggests outside of the car is safe, so they could just leave. If for some reason they truly were faced with starving or dehydrating, then they could make the decision to kill themselves, but not immediately.
If it actually seemed as though monsters were descending on them, ready to kill, then it would also be reasonable to kill themselves to prevent it, but at the time of killing themselves there was no reason to assume an impending attack was coming for them.
The movie reminded me of "The Crawling Eye". Mist or fog hiding monsters ripping off heads or people is the common action. The people caught up in a web reminds me of "Aliens 2". Bodies bursting with spiders also a reminder. This movie is not original and Thomas Jane's performance is rather irrational at the end. The lady with the Book "Revelations" is mentally imbalanced. But as actors they played their part, the movie is low grade science fiction, or low quality. Director and the writer is at fault.
I agree with your sentiment. My main thought was why did they not just FIND MORE GAS? The whole town is abandoned - surely they could have siphoned some out of another car or find a jerry can or SOMETHING. The ending was powerful, but felt rushed and illogical. Personally, I found the end of Monsters (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1470827/) far more believable/satisfying.