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history is unfair to Nixon


Nixon was not America's greates monster
yeah he had wire tapes
but they all do that
i doubt that their has been a lot of preidents that haven't done something illegal
the only diffrecne is Nixon got caught
still he did a lot of good things
he opened relations with China
and a lot of people think had it actully gone to trial
he might have gotten off.

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The taping was not wrong. His wrong was in the many actions taken by CREEP (committee to reelect the president) and his attempts to cover it up. A long list of illegalities took place as part of something called Operation Gemstone. The Nixon Tapes reveal that he felt himself to be above the law in many respects.

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So....
you do agree with me that history was unfair to him
or no

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History was not unfair to Nixon. He was involved with, initiated, and approved of many illegalities.

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He was the only President to resign from office. There was a reason for this. History has helped reflect that.

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they all bug each other

Nixon just caught
and he did do a lot of good
and he wasn't already the onyl president to do something illegal

when Aaron Burr was Vice president he killed somebody
Polk started an illegal invasion into Mexico that started the Mexican war
and as for Reagan look into the Iran Contra affair
how he didn't get impeached after that is beyond me

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Except for Andy Jackson and a possibly a few others, how many other presidents entertained the idea of genocidal murder of civilians and spoke so cavalierly about it?

Who else would you care to apologize for?

Hitler?

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i am not apologizing for anyone
and who mentioned Hilter
and while Jackson hated the indians not all the presidents did

so i am not really sure what point your trying to make other then you seem to like Hitler

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am not apologizing for anyone

Clearly your OP is an apologetic. Look up the word in a dictionary if you're unclear about it meaning.

and who mentioned Hilter

It fits the occasion. Like Nixon, Hitler advocated genocide and managed to do "good things" as well, as his apologists are quick to point out ("He built the Autobahn)
so i am not really sure what point your trying to make other then you seem to like Hitler

Semantics is not your strong suit, is it?
and while Jackson hated the indians not all the presidents did

Where did I write that ALL the presidents did? And where did I even specify Native Americans?

i doubt that their has been a lot of preidents that haven't done something illegal
the only diffrecne is Nixon got caught

1. The "Everybody does it" argument only works on criminals. All others recognize that a criminal act remains a criminal act no matter how many engage in it.
2. Not all presidents authorize politically-motivated burglaries aimed against their opponents and cover-up the felonies afterwards. So when you say "the ONLY difference", do you mean to suggest that all illegal acts are of equal significance?

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Hitler and Nixon are not alike
bombing Cambodia is a little different then systematically murdering 12 million people

man you really got a Hitler thing don't you

and i will try saying this again
while bugging people is not right
the people on this board and the characters in the film
like Sam Rockwell really seem to hate this guy and that is not founded over bugging some Democrats office

like the one scene which is so dumb
where Nixon talks about how his daughter says he is the finest man she nows

and Sam Rockwell is like appaled

that is idotic
one: what did the Rockwell think Nixon's kids hated him

two: Nixon was talking about himself
did Rockwell really excpect him to say bad things

like i said a stupid scene


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I didn't say they were identical, but tell me you don't believe this is horrifying, immoral genocidal talk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGVfzwvtlJM

And by one measurement more bombs were dropped over Cambodia and Laos under Johnson and Nixon than the Allies dropped during World War II. Laos has the dubious distinction of being the most heavily bombed country, per capita, in the world. 80 million bombs still lie, unexploded, on Laotian territory. Children are still being killed or maimed by them to this day.

man you really got a Hitler thing don't you

A "Hitler thing"? What's that? Obviously, you don't think the man was a monster.

Figures.

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i'll right fine
you don't have a hitler thing
but i thinks it';s safe to say we all think history was unfair to Nixon

now Reagan
he was an *beep*


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So you approve of genocide, do you?

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Yeah, poor old hate-filled, bigoted, racist, homophobic, paranoid, warmongering, egomaniacal, greedy, selfish, United-States-defiling Nixon. Where's HIS D.C. Memorial?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbLB3z_kFDw&feature=plcp

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they must need room for the Obama monument .



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aaaaaand there we have it. the real point of the thread.

THEY SHOOTIN! ah, i made you look.

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he was a filthy murderer, he should have been hanged in a good country but he was in a bad one.

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