sobmtl, who probably hangs out at soc.men wrote: <<Jane Austen is much more than just couples getting together, spliting, sharing passion or not. All social context was evacuated, the depth of her novels reduced to some soap-opera level.>>
This is a film about the people in a book club. I don't know why you think it affected Jane Austen's novels at all.
sobtml wrote: <<Other problem is the omnipresent misandry: anytime a guy opens his mouth, the girls rolls their eyes, treats them like kids.>>
Please. At first the women make gentle fun of Grigg's ignorance, at the end, Jocelyn is learning from HIM, learning about great books from Grigg. He's a great male character.
sobtml wrote: <<Guys are cowards, immature, cheaters.>>
Grigg. Grigg, Grigg, Grigg. And did you notice some of the women aren't so great? Allegra's evil girlfriend, for example? Prudie's mother? Even Prudie herself walks a very fine line, but ultimately stays on the right side. The women and men are both flawed, both human.
sobtml wrote: <<The most ridiculous moment in the movie is when Prudie asks her husband to read, just to have someting in common with him - watch a game with him, or wash his car if you are so desperate to share things with him!>>
Why does she have to do what he likes to share things with him? Why is only that valid? Prudie wants her husband to know HER -- nothing wrong with that.
sobtml wrote: <<And the guy changes drastically - give me a break, how stupid it is! I've waisted my time - though I like Jane Austen's novels, but this was just plain silly. >>
I don't think you have read Jane Austen's novels. You sure didn't understand this pretty simple, fun film. You are laboring under the delusion that all the women are great and the men are horrible and that is just not the case. That's pretty clear if you look at it objectively -- but you can't. I am sure you see misandry everywhere you look.
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cathy-creswell
12 years ago
^^^^THIS^^^
The perfect response.I hope the OP reads it.
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mjz688
12 years ago
Yeah, I found the anti-male tone of this movie annoying as well. While the female characters weren't exactly imaginatively drawn, the male characters were straight-on cardboard cutouts of every woman's love-to-hate man. And please stop saying Grigg Grigg Grigg. Don't you get it? He was intended to be a male fantasy figure -- a woman's idealized version of the perfectly sensitive, age-appropriate, handsome, passionate man. While the most sympathetic of the male characters, he was without a doubt the most cliched of the lot.
And SIX romantic quandaries resolved in the final five minutes? That's gotta be some kind of world record.
6/10
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