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"Act Your Age" is a canonical episode? Yeah. I'm not falling for it.


I won't spill the beans of what happened for those of you who haven't seen it yet, but this episode is as canonical as the Family Guy "Viewer Mail" episodes. In fact, the episodes from each show feature characters/creators answering questions from fans who wonder what would happen if certain scenarios played out in the series. In other words, it's strictly "fan service" and does not coincide with the principal narrative as the series progresses. If so, what would be the point of following the series if what occurred in the new episode served as a 20-minute (30 minutes if you include commercials) spoiler? It would mean every episode they would air from now on will be irrelevant.

It would be like if HBO aired a Game of Thrones episode where they flash forward to finale and covering the fates of the main characters who haven't been killed off yet and what became of Westeros when Winter finally came. Also, The Simpsons aired some "future" episodes, and I loved how they contradicted one another, so they all count as "What if" scenarios, hence the fates of all the characters will remain debatable until the (unlikely) finale. Any thoughts?

Also, for the record, I thought it was an enjoyable episode, and quite moving.

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There's a good chance this is a series finale so you might as well view it as canon.

Comparing this to GoT is silly. GoT depends on the "what happens next?" aspect to keep the viewers interested. PnF does not. It has self contained stories in each episode with an overarching continuity. It would make more sense to compare it to a show like Seinfeld. A show set ten years in the future would not have spoiled the interim episodes for Seinfeld because it doesn't depend on the "what happens next?" aspect.

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GoT comparison may be silly, but what I might as well apply this similar piece of logic onto any series with a continuous narrative. I brought up GoT as an example of a series with a serialized structure, and if you were to judge the enormous viewership that the series brings in, then you would know that they would want to tune into the next episode to see what happens next.

Now, keep in mind that P+F does not have the same number of viewers or fans, and it's primary demographic is children. The point that I'm probably making is that there are moments in P+F that continue to remain unresolved until the series is officially concluded. For example, whether or not Isabella will ever admit her true feelings to Phineas; if Perry the Platypus will ever reveal his true identity to Phineas and Ferb; if Candace will ever bust her brothers in front of their mom; etc. It's these moments that evade us every time in virtually episode, and we're waiting until the moment that it finally happens, which usually occurs near or at the series finale. And the loyal viewers want to stay on that same journey when the moment finally arrives.

This basic principle can be applied to any shows, including GoT. I mean, unless anyone has read the book, there are also major moments that continue to evade us in that show (ie. When is Daenerys finally arriving in King's Landing with her army and dragons; when will the Lanisters be overthrown; etc.), and we constantly wait until the moment arrives. Okay, so maybe the parenthetical examples are not the best ones, but I hope you get the idea of what I'm coming across.

It may not be a matter of "what happens next?", but rather "when will it happen" that matters most. "Act Your Age" is problematic to me, and I hope this will be resolved in the forthcoming episodes, because the journey's conclusion is a little too early to stop.

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It's canon. Otherwise they would have said so, like in the Star Wars episode. I mean, "Swampy" was crying in the end, LOL!
Besides, there's so much more to the show than what was resolved here that future episodes won't be "irrelevant" now.

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Remember the time travel episode that had the gang travel to the future and the Candace's children saw Isabella and said that she looked like Aunt Isabella?

Therefore "Act Your Age" is canon.





Why do they say things are a dime a dozen
when a dozen eggs costs a $1.89.

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Exactly!

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You all say it's canonical, and I denied it. Guess who's the fool now? Me.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/05/07/phineas-and-ferb-is-ending-its-run/70940024/

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Aw, the show's ending? :(
Ah, well. It had a good run; it's the longest running Disney show in fact! And "Act Your Age" was a great ending (although there's also going to be a present day ending called "Last Day of Summer"). Really going to miss this show, though! Seemed like it would never end!

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I'm relieved that "Act Your Age" was not the final episode. It didn't really end on a high note, so here's hoping that "Last Day of Summer" - a fitting title - will peak the series. "Across the 2nd Dimension" was probably the most epic event of the entire series, so here's hoping the series finale will top it and tie all the necessary loose ends. If anything, I'm still hopeful that they retcon "Act Your Age" because it seems pretty sad that Phineas and Isabella would go through their entire young lives without developing a deeper relationship and breaching their friend zone, but that's just me. If they don't, then it's no big loss because at least "Act Your Age" ends on a happy note, so there's nothing to be depressed about. Anyways, I'm so pumped for the finale.

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Yeah, I was hoping they would tell each other how they feel about each other earlier than that, and it was sad seeing how long they went not knowing, but I was just happy to see that they do eventually become a couple!
I hope "Last Day of Summer" is an epic grand finale!

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Look at it this way, if Phineas and Isabella had gotten together in middle school, they would, more than likely, have been broken up well before high school. With them finally admitting their feelings for each other as the leave for college, they have more of a chance of having a lasting relationship. There's your happy ending.

So there's no need to retcon "Act Your Age."

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Very good point! I for one loved the episode as a happy ending, but I can see why someone would find it bittersweet.

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That only indicates Isabella married Phineas (or Ferb, like Candace said, but that was obv a joke) .

It doesn't prove that everything playing out as it did in the episode is canon.

Also, as in Back to the Future, the future can still change. Doc initially wanted Marty to change 'future history' but eventually realized that was a fruitless pursuit - the future hasn't been written yet. What we saw in BttF part 2, the 'change' with Griff and his gang getting arrested may not ever happen either. Because in the present day of the movies, Marty didn't race Needles like he had done in his 'original future', meaning that everything after that non-wreck was now on a different path than the version of Marty that wrecked.

tl;dr - I take both those episodes as possible versions of the future but not cemented.

I think Vanessa and Ferb dating is weird though. I had figured the younger kids to be around 10 during the series, the 'Act Your Age' being 10 years in the future though puts them at being 7/8 during the regular episodes of the series and Vanessa turns 16 during the regular series, making her 8 to 9 years older than the kid crowd.

This means she is 26, dating a 17 or 18 year old who has just barely graduated high school. Ferb as a kid crushing on a girl too old for him and nothing ever comes from it is one thing. A woman of 25/26 dating a teenager is another. That's enough to make me want to ignore Act Your Age as a non-Canon what-if type episode.

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