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So the vampires on True Blood are total monsters if you think about it


They want humans to be happy and get along with them no matter how much evil *beep* they do to them. Basically telling the humans lay down and take it. And one of the big promoters of this ideal is Eric Northman.

Eric was part of an organization that bombed the true blood factories causing many vampires to feed on humans. When the general found out that it was intentional by the authority and vampires were plotting to reverts vampires back to their feral state of hunting humans. The general brought up that humans will fight back and Eric didn't like it and killed him.

When Eric saw the UV bullet in Tara and took it out, he was all to ego to go to war with the humans while total absolving the fact that the humans have every right to be scared of vampires after what the authority pulls.

In short vampires want to always be forgiven and do hundreds of bad *beep* to the humans. They want the humans to never fight back and just take all the *beep* they give them.

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People think Ball was using vampires as a metaphor for oppressed minorities when really they were metaphors for the 1%---powerful, corrupt, violent elites who will stop at nothing in their quest for power.


AVC: How do you envision the use of vampires as a metaphor? There are times on the show when it seems a very clear metaphor for something, and then it shifts around.

AB: Obviously, it's very easy to see the vampires as a metaphor for—at this point in history—for gay and lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people, just in the sense that equal rights and vampire marriage—that is to say, marriage between vampires and humans—is an issue in the show. But I think it's so easy to see them as that. It's just too easy. As a deeper metaphor, beyond the talking-head political sphere, I think they are, in some ways, a metaphor for a kind of shadowy group that is silently but very efficiently amassing and consolidating power. That's their goal, and anybody who gets in their way will be destroyed. There are certainly forces like that at work in the world. So for me, they were kind of a fluid metaphor, and I like that. Some of the vampires are like humans, some of them are very sympathetic, and some of them are just bad, and actively want to spread chaos throughout the world.
http://www.avclub.com/article/alan-ball-14300


And yet people sympathized with them, often moreso than their pitiful human victims. This is no different from the reality, where people side with the rich and powerful over the needs of working people. Ball had a viewpoint he wanted to get across, and some peoople didn't like that viewpoint so they tossed him out and in the end, instead of TB throwing light on the menace of corrupt and violent powerful forces in our world, the status quo was maintained. Eric was supposed to be the Kennedy-esque 'traitor to his species' exception to the rule but some people didn't like that, either.

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It sounds like you missed the whole point about Eric Northmsn. Eric did not espouse ideologues,causes or organizations. He was totally into his own agenda.he wanted to lead his live the way he wanted,be left alone and protect those he loved. Anyone who interfered with those objectives met a swift and deadly end. At the Authority ,he did whatever he he had to do to get away from them.they were interfering with is freedom and independence and he thought they were nut cases. When he resisted them, they put him through endless torture. So, he decided to pretend to go along with them.he only stayed as long as he did because he wanted to rescue Nora from her drug induced worship of Lilith.He thought the whole worship of Lilith thing was *beep* up . He was obviously shocked when he heard Bill's plan to blow up the True Blood factories to amp up the vampire plan of using humans like cattle and he wanted nothing more than to get away and rescue to Sookie' when he heard Edgington's plan to use her to find a way to day walk. He killed the general because he knew a human/ Vanpire war was inevitable and he wanted to show the vampire councilors that was to be trusted,so he could escape. It worked and he and Nora were sent out on a mission to find Russel and stop him. His plan worked and he go rescue Sookie from Russelll. After that,n he took the authority down,not because he was espousing the human cause against their's but because they had Pam and he wanted her back and because they had kept him a prisoner and tortured him.Later he took down vamp camp for the same reasons. Eric was on no ones side but his own and those he cared about. He was the same when he was a Vikinh Prince. Nora, at one said to him,m " still such a Viking" and he replied " Always" that was who Eric Northman was in a nutshell.

It was Bill Compton who constantly espoused his humanity and bemoaned it's lost. He constantly pretended to be on the side of the humans only to do what suited himself in the end. He joined the authority and Lilith so he could become the " chosen" and when he did,he followed only his agenda to further his own interest in acquiring day walking so vampires could reign supreme with him at their head as the supreme leader,mhe tought he was a vampire God even though Lilith told him she was no God and neither was he, he stil wrote a book claiming to have been a vampire God. When he lost his super God like power,he quickly shifted his agenda and became the benefactor of the people of Bon Temp, working hand in hand with Mayor Sam to supposedly save humans and vampires from Hep V infected vamps. Bill was a self loathing chameleon who always sought to further his own interests and have power over others. This is who he was as a person, regardless of his vampirism. In the end he became self destructive and wanted nothing more than his own end as is often the case with nihilistic indidualsl

The point of TB was to show that people were people ,human,vampire, werewolf,shapeshifter or faerie. They were good ,bad and everything in between. Governor Burell and Sarah Newlin were,in their own way just a phychotic as Russell Edgington with their nihistic agendas. Vamp camp was just as invested in torture as the Authority. Werewolves could be benign and mind their own business, turn phychotic when taking V ( their version of meth) or with the wrong leadership turn on humans and vampires and start gobbling them up.

Alan Ball, the show creator, said there were no real heroes or villains on TB ,no good vs evil clearly defined battle lines..That's the show that was written. The one you saw was one you filtered through the prism of your own biases and prejudices.

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Maggie's View: Your analysis of Eric Northman is dead-on right. Except for one thing -- the spirit of Godric. Godric, who has taken on a sort of religious aura to Eric - almost Christ-like -- appears twice to tell Eric that this is sick, evil, that Lilith is a false God. He goes on to say ( again, pardon the butchered paraphrase ) " You know this - but your sister doesn't." And with that he implores Eric to save Nora.
And Eric did know it. He is something more than the selfish, self-absorbed Viking, at least in Season 5. And Bill succumbs to the lust for power, becoming everything that he's not --as a vampire or as a human being. Alan Ball just thought it would be cool to make Bill very dark fir awhile. It is out of character - and was rather disturbing to me. He even became rather sadistic with Jessica. Then we see him in Season 6 - Bilith. Tormented by his ability to see the future and on a single-minded mission to save his kind -- especially Jessica.
In the first episode of Season 6, we see this really sadistic SOB from Season 5, tucking Jessica into bed, like a good Daddy. And asking her to keep him human.

As for Eric, who I've grown to appreciate far more than I did in the past, you've got him right but there's a little more humanity in him than your analysis allows. When his sister becomes interested in tasting Sookie's blood or something like that, Eric makes her promise not to ever harm her. But the promise isn't enough. He asks her to "swear on Godric". -- now that's as religious as it comes. As Sookie once said that if Eric didn't have this human side to him, she couldn't have ever cared for him---blood or no blood.

You make an astute point when you say that TB has no heroes or villains. To a great extent, this observation is valid -- and one of the reasons it was so good. Yet there are people who are *beep* ( like Mrs Fortenbury, that obnoxious orthodontist Vince, Sookie's father and Jessica's father, the three rednecks, that creep who supports all the evil things the Marnie/ Antonia character does, the Grand Dragon, Sweetie, and Im sure Incould name more. ) As for the werewolves, they are a pretty foul lot but there are exceptions like Alcede
and even his feckless father. I remember Eric's distaste when Sookie tells him she's been in a relationship with someone - and it's Alcede. I think what your saying is that there are good and evil characters in every group-- no stereotyping.

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Another Vampire-hater. Vampires are no different, essentially, than non-Vampires except that they have a biological need girl blood. I've already rewritten a post on this subject. If a Vampire was a violent SOB or vicious bitch before they were turned,,they'll be bad Zvampires. But if they were good peopke, once they adjust to being a Vampire, they won't kill anyone. Think of Jessica ( once she adjusted. She was so guilt-ridden over what she had done to Andy's faerie daughters, she didn't eat for months. Vshe had to be forced to eat. Think of sweet Willa, Tara ( who was less angry as a Vampire than she had been when she was not a Vampire. Think of Bill Compton, who tried to live on True Blood, and before that, did not kill his victims as Nan Flnnigan observed. He would take what he needed, then glamor them so they wouldn't remember, and tell them to take Vitamin B and an iron supplant for a week.
Think of James, who was a conscientious objector during the Vietnam War --- hated violence before and after. Think of Eddie. There's a long list of Vampires who could be you or me --- if we were turned. Season 5 was weird and completely twisted.

There are dome real monsters: Lorena, Violet ( total psychopath ) Russell Edggington -- but he was fun. And the trashy Malcolm, Diane and the other one. But they were trash before they were turned.

Vampires kill fewer people than people do. Or don't you listen to the news -- read some history. Hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis died since the criminal invasion based on falsified evidence in 2003. Massacres, killing -- every day. By people.

50 million people died during WW2.

So stop sounding like Trump. I can't take this hate-mongering.

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You just completed blended fiction and reality. Wow.

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The show gives us examples of mean viscious humans too. The The Fellowship of led by Steve Newlin and Sarah who are ongoing baddies yet relatable characters. .Governor Burell and gang,particularly those at vamp camp are another stirling of human baddies and there is that whole closed minded group of BonTemp citizenry who go on the hunt for supes lead by Mrs. Fortenberry. Their are various other examples as well. Alan Ball said their were no heroes in TB ,human or supernatural ,nor were there any truly all bad character either. This was definitely not an anti vampire show or good vs. evil show for that matter.. It was about individuals,regardless of their differences, who do bad and good things. Some did more bad then others but according to their own beliefs they were doing what they thought was right. It was supposed to get people out of their rut of generalizing and stereotyping. Eric was the most clear cut example the mixture of both of good and bad on the show. This was what made him the show's most compelling character.

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Vampires lost any sympathy for me in S3 when they slaughtered that poor stripper in the limo. Vampires on this show are not good or sympathetic, the majority are psychotic monsters who should be feared and I can't blame the governor for wanting to kill them. It disgusts me that the writers tried to equate true victims in world history with a these monsters.

1. BVS 2. TWS 3. Avengers

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