Undoing the Reboot?
With recent news reports of Arnold planning to reprise the ole Conan in a new film, could this be the case of studios deciding to undo particular reboots?
shareWith recent news reports of Arnold planning to reprise the ole Conan in a new film, could this be the case of studios deciding to undo particular reboots?
shareIt's a case of studios wanting money from nostalgia vanity projects.
shareStudios like to make money on familiar products, and did the reboot earn enough at the box office anyway?
The upcoming TEXAS CHAINSAW 3D will be a direct sequel to the original film, and ignore both the remake its prequel.
I hope more sequels will be made. I wouldn't mind another sequel to HALLOWEEN, but honestly not to Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN remake.
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I like to think it's Arnie realising he should have done this third film a long time ago and making good before someone does another crappy Conan film. A bit like Ridley Scott doing Prometheus to stop all this AvP crossover crap... except I'm hoping Arnie's film will actually be as good as his earlier work (sorry Ridley)!!
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"Before someone does another crappy Conan film"?
There are nothing but crappy Conan films.
Not a single good one exists.
Tesla was robbed!
Depends how you define 'good'... I think Arnie's are somewhat cheesy in places, hilarious to watch with your mates and a few beers, but with moments that also shine (some of Sandahl Bergman's lines, as well as James Earl Jones especially).
Certain aspects are just the film being a product of it's time, though I look past those.
But like I said on another thread, I think Conan films and Conan books are just like the James Bond books and films - Each is a separate entity almost nothing alike. You have to look at each one separately and enjoy it for it's own merits.
I hated the 2011 Conan not for anything to do with the Conan mythos itself, but mainly because it's just a crap film.
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One GOOD film exists.
It's a GREAT stand-alone film, and a mediocre adaptation, which puts it over all at GOOD.
Conan '82 is wonderful.
Destroyer is a middling piece of crap.
And the reboot of the franchise is a steaming pile the likes of which I've not seen in a long long time.
Yes, one good sword and sorcery movie exists, in "Conan the barbarian" (1982) - I just wish that movie had been called "Kalidor the Freed Slave" instead, which is what it was. That way, it wouldn't be a constant thorn in the side to the Conan fan in me, as I could have enjoyed it for what it is instead of being annoyed at what it isn't.
Due to the drastic and immense departure from the source material, I do not recognize it as a Conan movie. Hence, no good Conan movie exists.
Tesla was robbed!
Well, I know your feelings on the subject. And you know mine.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this issue.
Who would be better known at the time, Conan or Kalidor?
Which name would have drawn in more viewers?
Movies rarely care about fantasy nerds and the few fans of some comparatively little-known books, compared to the myriad of cinema-goers who are there to see a name star kick butt or a female name star dressed in skimpy outfits. There was generally more money in capturing the latter lot and it's only quite recently that Sci-Fi and Fantasy things like LotR and Star Wars have been properly viable genres for the non-geek mainstream.
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I'd think the works of Roy Thomas would be far greater thorn on any Conan fans side than Arnolds CtB.
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Which name would have drawn in more viewers?
Movies rarely care about fantasy nerds and the few fans of some comparatively little-known books, compared to the myriad of cinema-goers who are there to see a name star kick butt or a female name star dressed in skimpy outfits.
I'd think the works of Roy Thomas would be far greater thorn on any Conan fans side than Arnolds CtB.
So on the one hand, you seem to think Conan was a bigger name who could draw in more viewers.
On the other hand, you talk about "fantasy nerds and the few fans of some comparatively little-known books..."
That said, ignoring the Howard fans is one thing: claiming that you're actually being totally super faithful to Howard's work is another.
But they actively courted the fans, because - again - Conan was a big name at the time, and very successful in the Marvel comics and books. That's the issue: not the fact that they're not faithful, but that they claim that they are.
I'd think the works of Roy Thomas would be far greater thorn on any Conan fans side than Arnolds CtB.Are you kidding?!? Despite one or two minor missteps, Roy Thomas represents the absolute cream of the crop as far as Conan spin-offs is concerned.
Oh, I do mean Thomas. I don't think he's that good comic writer and he used Howard too much of a crutch. It's more apparent from his own writings, which are frankly horrible. He's always been at best mediocre in what he's done.
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