Someone please can me explain the end... Is Diane Teen and the Diane Adult the same? She was shoot but survive ? Jeez.......
I'm Really lost with this end.. I hate this type of films who ends in that form.
Please.. help :S
Diana the teen is the same as Diana the adult, only the adult Diana doesn't exist. She is just what the teen Diana imagines her life might be if she survives the bathroom. But she doesn't survive the bathroom.
If that sounds absurd it's because it is. The movie is also an anti-abortion tale but we won't get into that. Look at the other messages here and you'll get a better idea. I'm not really the one you want to be listening to. I positively detested this film, for reasons that are explained in detail elsewhere.
I come back here occasionally to try to warn people away from it, so I'm not a troll, just a concerned citizen.
Good for you. Is is an anti-abortion and pro Catholic movie isn't it!?
shareWhat the hell does the movie have to do with anti-abortion and pro-Catholic propaganda?? Please read some of the other threads and we can help you understand the movie. You'll be surprised that it's really not that difficult.
shareNot anti abortion? The girl has an abortion, she feels guilty, so guilty she believes the psycho killer should kill her. The director dutifully obliges, with bee-yoo-dee-ful slow motion blood spatter. Disgusting.
If it's not anti-abortion then it's just the director manipulating you for his own sadistic pleasure. Take your pick. Trust me, there's nothing profound about this movie.
Just like the Dark Knight was anti-bank robbing clowns. Did you expect her to be really happy about her abortion, it's just part of the story.
shareNo, I wouldn't expect her to be happy. But it's not just part of the story. It's the whole story. The adult Diana names her kid Emma, the aborted fetus's name that appears on all those little crosses that become real to the young Diana toward the end of the movie, ie, her life. Young and old Diana are the same person after all. Just because the older Diana is 15 years older, she's still the creation of a 17 year old's mind.
In that restroom Diana slowly comes to think her own life, what with all the sex and drugs and the abortion, was not worth as much as Maureen's conservative Christian life. And the writer and director of this crap agree because they offer no alternative narrative. The real considerations an actual 17 year old might have are nowhere in evidence.
My feeling is the director, Perelman, values Diana because, in his mind, she grew up in those few minutes in the restroom and sacrificed her life knowing she should have. It's oh so terribly sad but just.
The better ending would not have been, instead, letting Maureen die as we were all expecting. The answer would have been a completely different ending. Kill them both, let both live, anything to get that horrifyingly absolutist moral taste out of my mouth.
I will admit that i dont understand why he didnt just kill them both, its not like he knew them. But I don't really think there was a big agenda going on, every movie has a message and this happens to be one of them.
shareI think it ended well. I mean, it wouldn't have made sense for him to kill them both. He was truly sick, proven by the fact that he asked two best friends to choose. He wanted to cause as much pain as he possibly could before he killed himself, knowing that the one who lived would feel the weight of that day on their shoulders for the rest of their lives.
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wtf how is this movie anti abortion. The movie is basiclly saying if you get pregnant to go have an abortion. most people feel bad about having an abortion that didnt stop them
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Anti-abortion? Pro-christians? I don't think that has anything to do with it.
Did it occur to you Diana asked him to kill her just beceause she loved her best friend Maureen?
That's exactly what I thought! I don't think it's all about her guilt over the abortion - that might be part of it, but not the whole reason for asking him to shoot her...
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Just finished watching this on my new Roku (Netflix + Roku -- do it, seriously, it is awesome) and I was surprised to read that this was an anti-abortion, pro-Catholic film.
Maybe it is because I am female, but I didn't see it as an anti-abortion film at all. To me, instead, that element was a part of the bigger theme of decisions and consequences. She felt some ambivalence and remorse about her abortion, so have most of my friends. It doesn't mean she should have made another choice, though teen Diana envisioned that other "result" through the child Emma. I didn't necessarily think the film showed Maureen as making the better choice, either, just a different one.
I think this was a women's film in the best sense of the word. At least, what the girl and woman Diana both grappled with, I've grappled with and I know many of my gfs have, too. I thought the themes were ones which were real in my life.
I'm not saying it is wrong to view the film through the lens of pro-life and religion and to therefore despise it due to that, but I think that view is only one of many that are available. That's what is so great about art. Its reality is the intersection of the object itself (in this case the movie) and what the viewer/consumer brings to it.
I loved the film. It gave me a lot to think about. I don't think it cheated per se, either, all the hints were right there. I'm still wondering how Maureen's life turned out.
I agree that this isn't an anti-abortion film and the abortion had nothing to do with Diana's choice to sacrifice herself for Maureen.
IMHO, there are 2 possible reasons for her choice: as a previous post-er in this thread said - that she loved Maureen and couldn't justify living on if she 'caused' her friend to die in the bargain, and - one I haven't seen elsewhere - that she realized that the school shooting was in effect her fault for not reporting the shooter's telling her the day before that he was going to shoot up the school - her fatal mistake in taking that as only a joke.
Good grief. How can people come to such negative conclusions?
I mean... you are kidding right? You do realise the montage that went through Diana's head before she asked to be killed were moments of her friendship with Maureen, not the fact that she had an abortion?
And to be perfectly honest, Maureen was a Christian and she KNEW Diana had an abortion and that didn't change her behaviour towards Diana.
Although I do believe that the abortion affected Diana, I think that the main role it played in the movie was to show their friendship was strong enough to overcome obstacles of different religions and beliefs.
Furthermore, one can see how initially, Diana with all her great plans was so terrified of dying. But she did eventually sacrafice this for Maureen to live.
And if you can't see a positive message in that, you're an idiot who should go back to watching PG movies. At least they won't offend your delicate senses.
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Yup. They were best mates. They literally would take a bullet for each other. These nutjobs talking about this movie being anti-abortion - are as nutty as those that think Avatar is anti-American. There are movies with subtexts supporting certain positions (pro/anti capital punishment for example) but some people see 'Reds under the bed' in just about everything they see. I didn't see an anti-abortion message nor a pro catholic one in this movie.
But even were it true that his movie had an anti-abortion message - well Diana character would have been considered a virtual saint, not some monster as anti-abortion types would have her portrayed as.
Sheesh. Some people.
While I agree with you that her abortion was a big part of the story, her imagined future; I do not agree with your anti-abortion, pro-catholic stance on it. While it is just my opinion, I felt her choice at the end was due to the fact that she realized she had lived, she had done a lot more than her friend and throughout the "flashback" scenes, we see her telling Maureen to liven up. She had also stated her thoughts on Maureen (and Nate)'s future together and at a separate time her worries of growing up to be a mean, hard women. Her crying to Maureen because she felt that her heart wasn't strong enough was also a key point to her ultimate decision to sacrifice herself for her friend. Not everything she did or said had to do with the one plot point in the movie.
They say we have flashes of our life before we die. Maybe we have flashes of our dreams as well, she had just seen the yard full of crosses for the unborn, she admired the Professor and her and Maureen both dreamed of living on the other side of the neighborhood, in a house with a porch. At the moment she died, that was what she imagined; a life with the man she had a crush on and the child she let go in the house she dreamed of.
I thought that this was a beautiful movie. It was very intriguing. While slow at times and to some (self included) easy to figure out, it still kept my interest. It was a story of true friendship woven together with a tragic school shooting.
For those that did enjoy this film, a recommendation from me would be Passengers with Anne Hathaway (2008).
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Jlent, my man. I think you have the whole outlook here incorrect. What I gleaned from the director's "message" was an effort to point out the absurdity of stereotypes, religious or otherwise. Maureen was truly a good Christian, unlike some anti-religious stereotype of one, and a good friend to Diana in spite of her issues. She truly loves her as a friend. Diana, on the other hand is painted as a troubled teen who smokes, has sex, an abortion, makes bad decisions, etc. - in short, all the things you would associate with "un-Christian" behavior. In spite of this, she sacrfices herself for her friend. Why? If this were a piece of Christian propaganda, this would be the wrong message. The real message here is that it doesn't matter if you are Christian or not. It matters what kind of person you are. Diana sacrifices herself for her friend because she loves her, not through any feelings of low esteem. She obviously thinks she has a future in her moment of flash-forward, and even then decides to die for Maureen. This is about all people and the acts they are capable of, and is actually, I believe, antithetical to your argument. I think the abortion/daughter plot point was there for story arc links and nothing more. This is the director's vision I am talking about. I haven't read the book so I don't know what the author's point of view was, if the same, different, or what.
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I agree with jlent and the anti-abortion interpretation. If her sacrifice was simply her love for Maureen, as some here suggest, why was Maureen nowhere to be found in the images that crossed through her mind in the final moments having just made the choice to die and let Maureen live. Her guilt overwhelmed her, not her love for her best friend.
shareOP, since you never really got an answer to your question about the ending, here's the deal.
You've heard people say that in moments of crisis, "my whole life flashed before my eyes"? Well, when young Diana is shot, her life flashes before her eyes, but instead of a flashback, it's the life she imagines she might have lived later--an imaginary "flashforward." All the parts with Uma Thurman are the adult life of young dying Diana that will not ever get a chance to happen.
There are lots of cues in the movie to let you know where certain points of her future (imagined) life might come from. Young Diana had heard the lecture from the professor, who so impressed her with his insights about conscience that he becomes her husband in her fantasy life. When she and her friend are talking about children's names, the friend picks "Cody" and Diana likes "Emma." Then young Diana sees the name "Emma" on the pro-life crosses after she's had the abortion and so her future daughter is "Emma." Emma's a handful and Diana imagines herself saying some of the exact same things her own mother had said to her. There are lots of less significant crossovers, like the friend mentioning frozen yogurt right before they go into the bathroom and then frozen yogurt pops up in "the life before her eyes."
Watch it again, now. It's an amazingly rich and provacative movie.
I think everyone is missing the real point here. There is no huge political statement. Nothing to do with religion. It's simply the conscience of a 17 year old girl. Having an abortion that young could be so traumatic, I can't even imagine. To the poster that said this was a terrible movie with anti-abortion themes: Have you ever had an abortion? And if so, were you 17? Imagine yourself in her shoes. This is all the imagination of this young girl who's been ridden hard and hung out to dry. In the end, she chooses what she (in her under-developed, 17 year old girl mind) is right. And frankly, that was her decision for her own reasons. To her, she had already been through so much, and could imagine the way those things would effect her later on in life. I think in her young mind, she figured that her friend, whom she loved very much, would go on to do more powerful things. Things that Diana could not have done because of her guilty conscience and traumatic events. Some people are strong enough to live through terrible things and forgive themselves and move on to do great things with what they've learned. Others are not, and Diana grew as a human in those last scenes, because she determined she was NOT a strong person like that. Everything that happened in her life, destroyed it in the end. She forsaw her demise and decided Maureen would live through it and become a stronger person.
sharecpoet explained it so well
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but, to me, it is just a matter or liking the movie or not
I didn't like the end
I got it - but I didn't like it
In my country, the movie got a different name than the original.
If I want to translate, it's "In a blink of an eye".
That explains the movie much more.
The adult life we saw through the movie was just a possibility she imagined right before her death, in just some seconds.
Well, in my country it can be translated as "No Fear of Dying" and that is the WORSE name one could give to this particular movie. Even though at the end she asked to be killed instead of her friend, she was clearly afraid of dying.
"The Life Before Her Eyes" or "In a Blink of an Eye" are much more fitting.
I don't get why it's ok to hate the pro-choice, pro-catholicicsm message that exists (at least I saw it) in this movie. Is it ok to hate the pro-choice, anti-Christian message in this or any other movie? If not, then there's definitely a double standard here that, IMO, makes those opinions worthless. If you take a stand one way, why can't you respect another person's right to feel the other way?
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I think a lot of people are also misinterpreting the ending. I think her sacrifice proved that indeed her heart was her strongest muscle. It was a way to prove that despite of her life choices, she was still a good, selfless person. Basically what I took from it was that aborting or being "promiscuous" did not define her as a person.
sharenah, it was anti-Catholic, those nuns were real beyatches!!!
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