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The Betty/ Daniel thing...


On all the press releases and interviews and stuff that I've read, it always says that there has been some sort of a will they/ wont they romance between them. Have I missed something? But to me they only ever seemed like friends and even in the finale, there never seemed to be a romance or relationship of any kind. They had no chemistry whatsoever; Betty and Mark had more chemistry. Am I the only one or was I missing something obvious?

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i think there was chemistry. i don't think there were sparks. i always thought the betty/daniel thing would happen without reading the press releases. i had a conversation with a friend during the first season and said that daniel was going to fall in love with betty and she wouldn't see it. it happened. that was the only logical story line to me.

i just wonder about what they were planning for daniel and betty.

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There were no hints..there was no warning...only in the final few episodes did they start to spark something between them and it just made it awkward. When me and my sister finally realised what they were trying to imply with the lingering looks from Daniel we were yelling at the TV! It didn't feel right at all. The whole point of Betty is that Daniel was always getting with his secretaries and she changed that.

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From the very first episode, I've hoped that Daniel and Betty would eventually get together. Before Betty came into his life Daniel was a shallow playboy who didn't care about anything other than getting laid. Over the years we've seen how much he's changed-much of it from Betty's influence in his life.

I've always thought they had chemistry, if other people didn't see it -well that's their own perogative. I've always believed the best relationships are the ones based on friendship first, then you fall in love with your best friend which is what I believe happened with Daniel. We'll never know if Betty would have felt the same way if the show had continued, but I would like to think she would have come around if we had gotten season 5.

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I just finished watching season 4 on Netflix and I have to say I am just SO relieved that she did NOT end up with Henry! Don't get me wrong, I thought their relationship was cute the first time around (at least initially) and I was so glad that Betty was being spared that disastrous loser (whose name isn't even worth mentioning) that she had been dating from the "neighborhood" when the series began. However, when the whole oops-I-got-another-woman-pregnant-and-now-I-have-to-move-away-so-we-can-raise-our-child-together element was introduced, I completely wrote Henry off. IMO, there was no saving Henry after that and it didn't matter how buff they made him or how suave a haircut they put on him, burnt poo still smells like burnt POO!
Now that I'm done ranting about that, on to the topic of Betty and Daniel. . .
. . .I didn't totally hate the idea. I agree with one of the previous posters--it was refreshing in the earlier seasons that there were no sexual tones of any kind between B&D, it was clear that they were operating strictly on a boss/employee then friend/friend (and even later best friend/best friend)basis. There was no romantic chemistry, no inklings of infatuation from either character toward the other and I was completely fine with that.
However, in season four there were tiny seeds planted foreshadowing that a possible romance between Betty & Daniel may have been the direction the storyline was going to follow. My only criticism of this is how late in the game the writers chose to pursue this route. Season 4, really? You mean that after 4 years of womanizing on Daniel's part, 4 years of Betty being there for him as a platonic and often sickeningly wholesome voice of reason you wait until the 2nd to last episode of season 4 to make Daniel have the Oh-my-God-I-love-Betty epiphany?? I think if he had come out and confessed his "love" for her at that point, he would have seemed like a selfish boy unready to share his toys with other children. It would have seemed like a last ditch attempt to hold onto the best assistant/editor he'd ever had and it would have completely undermined the growth that his character had made over the course of the previous seasons. After years of working hard and paying her dues, Betty was finally having her talent recognized and rewarded and if he had said "I love you, please stay" it would have put her in an impossible position. I'm so glad he realized he needed to let her go. I love that he did step down from Mode and decide to jaunt off to London by the finale-- it wasn't the same as a full confession of love but it gave me the HOPE that they perhaps could pursue a relationship as equals in a completely new arena.

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I think you all are wrong. I just finished my marathon of Ugly Betty and their relationship progressed steadily. Her attraction to Daniel was something that was not immediate as well as his to her. They both needed to go through changes and experience the relationships that brought them to the point of becoming a believable couple.

Betty first started with Walter, someone she felt she couldn't do better, but Henry brought other options. With Henry, it was a mutual physical and mental attractions and he was the best suited for original Betty. However, she was not finish developing and metamorphosing. Gio was another Walter but without the feeling of settling. The majority of the Matt storyline was ridiculous and wasted the time that the writer could have properly develop Daniel's and Betty's love. However, Betty had to learn how to be in a relationship with a former rich playboy.

Daniel needed Salma Hayek's character to experience what it is like to be used and rejected. The friends with benefits relationship with Amanda was ridiculous as well the relationship with Wilhelmina's sister. However, Molly was good for Daniel to have a relationship that he was not the center of attention. He learned to love an independent woman who did not sleep with him because he was a rich playboy.

Betty and Daniel now have learned how to have a relationship and learn give and take and when to make changes. They have learned how to complete each other. In the beginning of their relationship Betty soul focus to make him better or to take care of his needs. He needed to view Betty diffently than just his assistant and then just his friend. As she found her voice and worked toward spreading her wings Daniel was able to see her as more. He wanted to please her, and protect her, and be with her. Even before season 4, Daniel enjoyed the closeness with Betty.

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I think you all are wrong.
No. You can't tell people they are wrong just because they don't share your perspective, especially in this case where the creator and the two leads all went on record to saying that they were against a romantic Betty/Daniel relationship. Silvio actually removed a scene at the end of the pilot where Betty gave Daniel a second looks while he was walking away (like she did with Matt in his first episode), so if you saw something romantic in that relationship it certainly an view not shared by the creators of the show.

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I totally can say people are wrong because it is my belief as everyone else can say I am wrong. Chilax, this is a message board full of opinions. No one is more correct than anyone else. Plus, IDC what the creator believed or not I just stated what I saw.

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I've always been of the opinion that however a person perceives a show and what's going on in the show is neither wrong or right. Even if it's different from what the cast and crew say. There is no one right answer. It can often be fun to see what others think and there are times when you can see an idea that you never thought of.

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I don't think Betty considered Daniel in that way until the very last scene of the very last episode (and even then, it was just considering the idea), but I do think Daniel showed interest in Betty as early as the pilot. Not overwhelming, "I must have you now" interest, but the look he gives her at the end of the first episode was that little spark where he started to ignore his acquired tastes based on media and expectations, and began to embrace his natural preferences. Anyone else notice his only serious relationships were with curvaceous women? And with Betty, he sneaks looks, tells her she's beautiful, etc. It's nothing so obvious that I deem it conclusive evidence that he was destined to love her in the end. It's just how I saw things progress. Still, Getty was my first choice.

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I agree with you... I am watching Ugly Betty all the way through and you can totally see their relationship growing... When I watched it once a week when it was on regularly I HATED Daniel and Betty but now while watching it a second time I am totally rooting for them lol.

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They were always more like siblings. It is weird for any "romance" between them to be even suggested.

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Daniel & Betty were nothing more than friends.It seems like Daniel only started liking Betty when Amanda dumped him for Tyler.This was just too sudden and as much as I like Daniel's character it just makes him shallow for liking Betty after her physical transformation.In seasons 1-3 it was ugly Betty but when Daniel starts to notice her towards the end of season 4 it's gorgeous America Ferrera.And I agree with the person who said they have no sexual chemistry.To me Detty is very 1 sided and it didn't play out well with Daniel's character.

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you guys are kidding right? I saw the chemistry between them since early in the FIRST season!!!

I wanted them to date each other since season 1!!! The series finale it was FINALLY at least MENTIONED of the possibility by Claire (Daniel's mom) that Daniel may be in love with Betty.

I think they had such good chemistry and they really REALLY cared for each other - even more noticible afer the episode, "Punch Out."

I think even with braces Daniel loved Betty, he just didn't it yet.

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"you guys are kidding right? I saw the chemistry between them since early in the FIRST season!!!"

Then why were they dating/sleeping with other people?And in the 1st season Daniel was never attracted to Betty.In fact,he was disgusted by her.

"I wanted them to date each other since season 1!!! The series finale it was FINALLY at least MENTIONED of the possibility by Claire (Daniel's mom) that Daniel may be in love with Betty."

Just b/c Detty fans wanted it to happen,it doesn't seem realistic at all.I think it's really lame that his mommy had to point that out.He's a grown adult and his mom shouldn't have to give orders.Besides,the thing with Daniel is that Betty has always been his babysitter.Everytime he gets in trouble he needs Betty to bail him out.He is needy and whiney.

'I think they had such good chemistry and they really REALLY cared for each other - even more noticible afer the episode, "Punch Out.'

They were always friends.They never liked each other in a romantic way.A guy and a girl can be friends without having romantic feelings for each other.

"I think even with braces Daniel loved Betty, he just didn't it yet."

His behavior says so otherwise.He was sleeping around with Amanda and having sex with her.It was Amanda who dumped Daniel otherwise he would have continued his womanizing ways.And it's not just the braces it's her complete transformation.His feelings were not genuine but more of an impulse.

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because they didn't know it yet when Betty was getting every single guy she wanted and Daniel was boning multiple women.

You don't realize you have fallen in love with someone the very second you see them. Anyone who says otherwise is a LIAR!

And Daniel's mom wasn't giving him orders and even if she did she couldn't FORCE him to fall in love with her. She didn't force it nor provoke it. She realized it. Mothers can usually tell when sparks fly between their kid and someoone else.

They weren't ALWAYS friends. Daniel didn't even see Betty as a friend really until the "Punch Out" episode.

True a guy and girl can be friends without having romantic feelings for each other, but it's ALSO true that a guy and girl that are already friends can have romantic feelings for each other.

When Daniel got in trouble, Betty was there to be there for him. He was her first priority most of the time. Betty was the FIRST person he thought of in those situations. Those are the times when I see how they really care for each other. No one would just stop what they are doing and help that person out for just ANYONE. Daniel also thought of her when he gave her all the "perks" even though his job didn't require him to do those things for her. Like giving her those theater tickets and stuff like that.

Well that's all I'll say about it. I don't think there's a way to change your mind at all about what u think of any of the main characters.

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"You don't realize you have fallen in love with someone the very second you see them. Anyone who says otherwise is a LIAR!"

How is it love when you're having sex with another womem.He loves "Betty" but still sleeping around with someone else.With Daniel it still about sex and physical attraction which he has never had with Betty.I'm sure Betty didn't appreciate his playboy ways.His so called "love" seems so fake.

"And Daniel's mom wasn't giving him orders and even if she did she couldn't FORCE him to fall in love with her. She didn't force it nor provoke it. She realized it. Mothers can usually tell when sparks fly between their kid and someoone else."

How many times since seasons 1-4 Betty has to bail Daniel out of trouble.He doesn't love her,he is so needy.Claire has also encourged Daniel to go after Sofia and Renene but she was wrong about them.And Betty never had romantic feelings towards Daniel.If she did she wouldn't have moved across the world from him to start over.

"True a guy and girl can be friends without having romantic feelings for each other, but it's ALSO true that a guy and girl that are already friends can have romantic feelings for each other."


True,but you're missing the point.Like every version of this show,the "Betty" character has to undergo a physical transformation.It's NOT at all like 2 friends fall in love.Betty becomes pretty and all of a sudden men like her.This is so shallow b/c if Daniel didn't like her before that it does not seem genuine at all.It seems like all she had to do was "pretty" herself up for Daniel for him to like her.This defeats the purpose of the show.

"When Daniel got in trouble, Betty was there to be there for him. He was her first priority most of the time. Betty was the FIRST person he thought of in those situations. Those are the times when I see how they really care for each other. No one would just stop what they are doing and help that person out for just ANYONE. Daniel also thought of her when he gave her all the "perks" even though his job didn't require him to do those things for her. Like giving her those theater tickets and stuff like that."


But that's just it.Daniel can buy his way out.Like he did with his theater tickets or when her family went to Mexico.He's just some rich boy using his families money.Remember how he humiliated her in the "Tornado Girl" episode or how he could care less and showed no interest when she won a blog award.Daniel doesn't come off as supportive at all.I rewatched season 4 & he put that Natalie character above Betty(someone he barely knows).He also almost runined her chances of her new job in London b/c he is so immature.This is not love it's infatuation.I don't see Betty as a soulmate more than a babysitter to Daniel.

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But BETTY did NOT fall in love w/Daniel.If she did she wouldn't have moved across the world to start all over.And Daniel was always Betty's little babysitter.
And when you are truly in love with someone then it doesn't explain why you're sleeping/having sex with another person which would be Amanda.Betty was always available for him b/c she is a nice person who always thinks of others before herself.She was just doing her job and being Daniel's friend when she got him out of trouble.And Daniel gave into those "perks" b/c he had the money and influence to do so as a favor.He even forgot her birthday and had someone sent in her gift which he didn't even remember.She really wasn't her priority at all.The thing that strikes me the most is that Betty is a GOOD person.She's not like Amanda who only looks out for herself,she cares for the people around her.She helped Daniel b/c she cares for all her friends even though they are not always nice to her.That's just her personality.

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