So did it bring his wife and older son back?
Did the revenge bring them back from the dead?
shareDon't think so. In fact, it cost him his life and almost his other son's life. This is one of, if not THE MOST, disturbing movie I've ever seen.
shareWell, it certainly spared a ton of other innocent families the same fate.
shareWho's to say police couldn't have caught them? The other innocent families would have been spared just the same.
They were cop killers, I can promise you in the real world they'd never get away with killing cops. Never. Especially not since the police already knew they did it and there are probably a ton of witnesses that saw what happened.
They'd get the death penalty. Or 2-3 life sentences. They'd never get out on the street again. Justice would be served, he'd still be alive and be able to take care of his son and move on with his life.
Though that is assuming the gang didn't find out on their own he and his son were still alive and come after them again and maybe go out and kill more random people before they got caught, he still wasn't out of family to protect, and as for him having faith in the police to handle it in this situation, well considering they already failed to prosecute one of them and to stop or kill them before they got in his house, what's to be expected?
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They weren't cop killers until they came to his house and killed his wife and shot him and his son. They got away clean with the murder of his first son and the only reason they found where he lived is b/c he left his brief case.
shareWhen they chased him around with machine guns downtown, they did kill a cop or two as well.
You don't need to tell me they got away clean for the murder of his
irst son, I watched the movie. I saw that. My point is that after it escalated into several innocent bystanders injured/killed and even 2-3 cops, there was just no way they were going to get away with it.
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What a horribly cynical thing to ask. One might as well ask why we bother punishing criminals at all. It certainly doesn't undo what's been done. I suppose we should simply accept the filth amongst us as necessary inevitables and try to work through them as best we can.
Exit question: do you think we should bother the sick or feeding the hungry? They're already infected and impoverished. Should we not simply shrug our shoulders and say "Meh. What-are-ya-gonna-do?"
There's a great line from Hamlet that I chiefly loved. He lays out his case for killing a murderous usurper: "Is it not to be damned to let this canker of our nature come in further evil?"
There is justice and there is revenge. They are two separate words for a reason. This movie and your comment are a lot of relativistic pseudo-profound garbage.
Did I argue against punishing criminals? Did I say we should be apathetic to anything and everything bad that happens in this world? That we should let the sick and starving die? You sir, are a total drama queen. Way to take things people say to a ridiculous extreme. I think I know your kind. You get worked up and then you're lost in arguments against things that people never even said or implied.
The only point I was trying to make was, why, oh why wouldn't he leave it to the cops to do their jobs AFTER his first vendetta had cost him his wife and seriously injured his remaining son? Going on a killing spree didn't solve anything except his need for revenge.
I believe in justice and I believe that people who do bad things should be punished. I don't however believe in destructive eye-for-eye vendettas. I understand his need of revenge, especially when justice has failed him once, like we saw in this movie. But at what cost? In the end, he dies. So now he' has left his son orphaned. When his son wakes up from that coma he will have found that his entire family is wiped out. For what? So his father could kill some criminals that most likely would have been caught by the police within days, and this time around they would have gotten life in prison or the death penalty for sure, because cop killers are harshly dealth with. You better believe that when police and district attorneys get their hands on someone they KNOW is a cop killer, that person is going to pay. It might be possible to get away with killing some random person in gas station, with only one witness around, but I assure you there's no conceivable way that running around with machine guns in a downtown area, hurting several people and killing several cops won't result in an extremely harsh conviction. The police was searching for the gang. They would have found them and they would have been locked up for life or executed. They were already screwed.
Yes, my question was cynical, but no more cynical than the character in this movie was. In the end revenge consumed him and hurt him and his family even more. If you don't understand that, then you aren't a very bright person.
I agree that this movie was complete crap though.
The only pseudo-profound garabage I see in this thread, however, is the over-dramatical rantings in your post, and the Hamlet quote made me chuckle a bit. Cheers!
Aww come on! You have to do better than that!
"The only point I was trying to make was, why, oh why wouldn't he leave it to the cops to do their jobs AFTER his first vendetta had cost him his wife and seriously injured his remaining son?"
Well...could it be because the cops did such a bang-up job when his other son was killed? There's only so much any of us can take, and you can expect us all to sit on our hands.
Did you actually watch this movie?
Did you actually read my post?
Or is it just more convenient to read that one sentence you quoted and then respond to it trying to sound clever?
I'm not going to repeat the same point I already made twice in this thread, so feel free to go back and read it again.
Are you kidding about the cops catching these alleged cop killers? Because that is what they are. Nick was in the hospital for at the very least a night and a portion of the next day which I find impossible since the surgery would have been a few hours plus the drugs he would have been given would have made him sleep for some time. So lets say it was 30 hours after he was shot that he awoke. That means the cops had a total of 30 hours to catch the gang that as you said "they knew did it." But what would that do even if they tried to get them. There is not proof it was them. Did anyone see it? No. Did any of the gang leave DNA(except for the one that was shot and either way he would not give up the rest)? No. The cops never would have gotten them and even if they did it would not matter. As soon as they realized Nick and the son were alive they would have killed them because it was Nick that killed his brother not the wife. So even if the cops got them Nick's son was still in danger. He realized that the only way to save what was left of his family was to kill the people who wanted them dead.
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