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Appaloosa or 3:10 to Yuma


How would you rate them

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Appaloosa - 7/10
3:10 to Yuma - 8/10

3:10 to Yuma tied with Open Range is the best western in the last 15 years or so in my opinion, but Appaloosa is pretty good too. One thing they have in common is the dynamic between the two leading characters, the best part of both movies. I liked Crowe and Bale better, but I think the cast of Appaloosa is better overall. Neither of them are too original, but I liked the Yuma story better, and the finale just makes me wanna watch the movie all over again as soon as it's finished.

mgtbltp, I don't think they should be compared to western masterpieces you mentioned and I doubt any western will reach that level again. They're still better than most of the westerns AND action films in more than a decade, though. In my opinion.

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3:10 - it doesn't get bogged down in sentimental, half-finished love interest nonsense.

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Better than Tombstone? Really?

Oh and to stay on topic, I like 3:10 better. I was expecting more from Appaloosa. It was just okay to me.

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My rating:

Appaloosa 4/10
3:10 to Yuma 8.5/10

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"3:10 to Yuma remake was ridiculous, implausable, and pretty far fetched all around, and Appaloosa could have used a bit more action, though it was more believable than Yuma's story line. I say each should have borrowed from the other.

Niether of them comes remotely close to Great Westerns like, "The Wild Bunch", "The Searchers", "The Good The Bad & Mrs. Miller."

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On a 1 - 10 scale, I'd rate "Appaloosa" a 7 and "3:10" a 4. "3:10" was overblown, unrealistic and not nearly as good as the Glenn Ford original.

"Appaloosa" set an interesting pace with an offbeat story. The relationship between Harris and Mortensen was different but believable.

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I rate Yuma over Appaloosa...

And yet noone mentiones Jesse James... is it that unpopular or did noone like it?
westerns aren't always supposed to be about shootouts...

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I thought JESSE JAMES was spoiled mainly by its glacial pace. People who complain about the pace of this film must have forgotten that one. I kept thinking that the cinematography was lovely (though certainly not of the place it was supposed to be set) but that the camera spent entirely too much time on the faces of a couple of leads who had nothing to tell us that way. Some of the supporting actors were good, though. Someone should tell both Brad Pitt and Casey Affleck that they need to learn to act for a camera in closeup, or maybe CA just needs to mature. He didn't do at all well in that department in GONE BABY GONE, either. BP should stick to comedy, at which he is fine.

But the paaaace!

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Jesse James is so different, I don't think many people even think of it as a Western.

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I give Yuma a 9 and Appaloosa a 5.

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Appaloosa (2008) = 7. Fully satisfactory, nothing special.
3:10 to Yuma (2007) = 4. The final fight was a bad joke.

Given the direction of 3:10 to Yuma (2007) was further and further away from intensity and in-context realism, nothing could have saved it. It had good actors, but they never had a chance to make it work.

Appaloosa (2008) was almost a masterpiece.

Unfortunately Renée Zellweger was no good, and the story was in large part about the consequences of how lovable and beautiful Allison French was despite the way she acted. To my eyes, she was too old for children, charmless, and looked like a Hollywood star with bad plastic surgery and a frozen face. It doesn't work. It's like a fight to the death over who gets to drink polluted water from a dirty cup. You have to pretend, constantly, that there is something worth fighting for, and that introduces a tension that is at odds with the down-beat, relaxed style of a movie that mostly sacrifices thrills for just letting you believe.

All the male actors do well, and the shootout rocks. It's so sensible. It's all over in seconds because "everybody could shoot."

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After one viewing of both movies I would have said I liked 3:10 to Yuma more. I didn't care much for Appaloosa in the beginning.

The more I've seen both films, Appaloosa has grown on me and I would definitely say it's the better movie.

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Lots more people saw 3:10, since it was a big-budget, multi-star studio effort, and lots more of the folks who saw it are likely to be on the boards (that is, younger and less sophisticated about films and acting). IMO most of the threads on that board (and on this one, in fact) haven't been particularly thoughtful. Neither film is all that intellectual, and in the case of this one, not intended to be.

On IMDB, just as you can't use the polls as an indication of anything meaningful, you can't use the commentaries. This is just talk among whatever amateurs happen to come by. Nothing wrong with that, and with having fun with it, but let's not go overboard or give it too much importance.

Both films were well reviewed -- though I personally didn't agree with the approval on 3:10, for various reasons -- and both are still available to watch. Arguing about the relative merits ought to be based on something besides how active the boards are.

Or one could not argue about relative merits at all. I suspect that most people who liked one didn't much like the other, so it's a matter of taste. And in this case, at least the film is well made. 3:10, IMO, is not a film the participants ought to be proud of.

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I just saw 3:10 TO YUMA and while it's a good movie, I prefer APPALOOSA. Made me think how Virgil and Hitch would have handled that same situation. Probably they'd have marched the outlaw to the train with Hitch's 8 gauge nuzzling the back of the outlaw's neck and with the hammers wired back and only Hitch's thumb keeping the hammers from falling. (Much like Jack Elam did in RIO LOBO.)
Virgil would have announced, "You shoot Hitch, his thumb goes off the hammers, and your friend's head goes off his neck."

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I rated both 8/10. I like them both, though they're no classics. "Open Range" was good also, and "The Proposition" was even better than these three.

On a side note, I don't think the Western genre was ever (ou ever meant to be) "realistic". Saying a Western is "unrealistic" is pretty much like saying smoking is bad for your health. Of course it is.

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Appaloosa - 6/10

3:10 To Yuma - 8/10

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That's close to the collective IMDb rating of 6.8 (Appaloosa) and 7.9 (3:10 to Yuma.)


Why do you suppose that, upon the film's release, the 3:10 to Yuma (2007) board attracted so much intelligent conversation on existential themes, on reality vs Myth of the Old West, on the psychology of the characters, on the many memorable scenes, while this board has been so much slower from the get-go and more focused on dull plot points & Rene Zellweger's performance?

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3:10 to Yuma 5/10

Appaloosa 6/10 .






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i rate them both 8/10. 310 is good for an exciting action movie. and appaloosa is great if you want a more realistic western.

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What is a "realistic Western"?

(Apart from an oxymoron, that is.)

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The assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

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Accurate depictions of clothing, firearms and mannerisms isn't what I had in mind. A truly ethnographic rendering of the Old West would look very different, more like Meek's Cutoff, even if it leaves you preferring to watch paint dry. Admit it. We watch Westerns for the kicks that shootouts afford, and for idealized representations of masculinity, not so we can get closer to "the truth."

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3:10 to Yuma 8.5/10
Appaloosa 6/10

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Appaloosa: 8.5/10
3:10 to Yuma (2007): 7/10 --- (1957): 8/10

Open Range: 8.5/10

True Grit (2010): 7/10

Tombstone: 8/10
Wyatt Earp: 8/10

Unforgiven: 10/10

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