madp: And in the very end, Lacy gets shipped to undergo the training program Zoe wanted to go through. (So here's what Zoe wanted to do on Geminon, dtmuller. Is it clear now?)
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that's the best answer they're going to give to my question, then I'll say "No!" This was a major issue across numerous episodes, and ends with essentially a whimper. I guess we could assume that, but it's a bit oblique for something that important just a few weeks back. OK, in the original it was several months back, and I'm thinking this is another of those things they were hoping we'd forget. But there's a far worse issue. After Zoe was killed in the explosion, iZoe still wanted to go to Geminon, even as a Cylon. "OK, I've been accepted for this program. I'm about two feet taller, a couple of hundred pounds heavier, have one glowing red eye, and I'm made of metal, but if I wear a nice dress and accessorize, maybe no one will notice."
Internal to the show, iZoe condemns the spectators in V-world because they watch a couple of girls in a brutal, bloody fight for entertainment (but, of course, it's not real). External to the show, all of us are watching a couple of girls in a brutal, bloody fight for entertainment (but, of course, it's not real). Does anyone else detect the irony there?
Something in connection with the above occurred to me, that I think should be significant. Maybe it will turn out to be. All of the folks in V-world have no compunction about brutal violence, killing, maiming, beatings, etc. because, of course, it's not the real world. Presumably, they'd never do that in their real world, at least not so casually. But in V-world, it's OK. But to iZoe and iTamara, V-world is their "real" world, the one in which they really exist. Thus, by those rules, what we call the real world is essentially virtual to them, and vice-versa. How long before they conclude that killing, etc. the folks in, shall we say, R-world, is OK because, to them, it's not the "real" world? Anything they do in that "other world" by putting on the cylon bodies is as ethically neutral as what, say, Joseph does in V-world by putting on the holoband.
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11 years ago
by dtmuller » If that's the best answer they're going to give to my question, then I'll say "No!" This was a major issue across numerous episodes, and ends with essentially a whimper. I guess we could assume that, but it's a bit oblique for something that important just a few weeks back. OK, in the original it was several months back, and I'm thinking this is another of those things they were hoping we'd forget.
Interesting how different people perceive things differently. I absolutely have no problems with that part at least as far as Zoe is concerned. To me, Zoe and apparently Ben Stark wanted to go to Gemenon to be close to STO headquaters and to be closer with their new god's philosophy. I felt it like a couple western kids who decide to become a terrorist, discovers Islam, and decides to move to the Middle East.
What is not clear to me is why Ben decides to blow up the train instead, when he would have "benefited" much more undergoing their training and serving as a tool for STO after such training. And I don't understand how STO would have trusted an untrained kid to do something major as that attack without the proper training and indoctrination.
OK, Ben was Clarice's work, not properly STO, but how much terrorist training could Clarice have accomplished at school at breaks between classes and during recess time?
But there's a far worse issue. After Zoe was killed in the explosion, iZoe still wanted to go to Geminon, even as a Cylon. "OK, I've been accepted for this program. I'm about two feet taller, a couple of hundred pounds heavier, have one glowing red eye, and I'm made of metal, but if I wear a nice dress and accessorize, maybe no one will notice."
That part I agree with. It always seemed to me that iZoe's reason to go to Gemenon was vague because she she wasn't privy to Zoe's plans and the only reason she gave was, well, because Zoe wanted to go whatever the reasons they were. But somehow I think this huge machine of destruction that is a Cylon robot would have fit right in with the STO's plans.
Internal to the show, iZoe condemns the spectators in V-world because they watch a couple of girls in a brutal, bloody fight for entertainment (but, of course, it's not real). External to the show, all of us are watching a couple of girls in a brutal, bloody fight for entertainment (but, of course, it's not real). Does anyone else detect the irony there?
Huh... let me guess... The irony is not real either? OK, I give up.
Thus, by those rules, what we call the real world is essentially virtual to them, and vice-versa. How long before they conclude that killing, etc. the folks in, shall we say, R-world, is OK because, to them, it's not the "real" world? Anything they do in that "other world" by putting on the cylon bodies is as ethically neutral as what, say, Joseph does in V-world by putting on the holoband.
Very nice catch indeed!
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