So, any theories as to why the five guys planning to pulverise Reacher decided to stand to one side while their leader attacked him, and none of them had thought to arm themselves with so much as a wrench or a bat?
Were they determined to pick a FAIR fight with him?
It was supposed to be easy, five to one, and appear spontaneous.
Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.
Someone shot his daughter a few days ago, and everyone thinks that was spontaneous:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-officer-shoots-daughter-cr ashes-car-en-route-hospital-police-article-1.1904362
You'd be amazed how many people have been spontaneously shot, stabbed, or beaten to death with a blunt object.
Yeah, but what were they supposed to say when the police questioned them had they pulled it off? "See, officer, we were in the bar, having a drink and this guy insults our friend, so we took him out and beat him up with the bats and wrenches we happened to have with us."
Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.
If even one of them drove to the bar, he might have a toolbox in the car.
And dragging him outside doesn't look any more spontaneous than picking up a wrench.
And Reacher was sure they had arranged things with the police anyway.
And why did they all just stand there while the first guy fought him?
You obviously missed it when he said: The toughest will attack first, when I take him down, the rest will scatter.
Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.
In the book the assailants thought it was an easy job and they were only meant to break some bones, not cause too much damage. They wanted to put Reacher off the investigation. It is explained that although they numbered five only one would be really keen on the fight and two would be uncertain but would follow the leader, and the final two would not be keen of the encounter and would scatter once they saw the leader and maybe one or two of the others get hurt.
Jack did go very light on these five compared to some of the fights he has throughout the books. In the books Reacher is a total beast in unarmed combat and he is 6ft 5inces and normally weights between 230-250lb
To make a great film you need three things - the script, the script and the script -Alfred Hitchcock
This fight did look interesting, but I would really like to see some of real Reacher fights - no fancy moves, pure strength. One of the images that is stuck in my head is the way he breaks necks. To me it's a more grizzly image than some slasher movies.
Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.
Is Jack a big guy in the books?
...then whoa, differences...
6'5", 250 pounds, all muscle
Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.
Damn, big contrast to Mr. Cruise then.
Must have surprised (disappointed?) a few readers when they found out Tom was playing Reacher, just on that aspect alone.
...then whoa, differences...
You missed that uproar, huh? I don't even read the books but I remember hearing all sorts of whining about that.
You'd feel cocky too if you were full of myself.
I always imagined Ray Stevenson as Reacher...
shareI found it odd that Reacher would quickly act in such hostile fashion to both Sandy and then the thug boys, considering how adept he is at "disappearing" and "blending in", etc. (especially if he's running around behind the scenes of a murder investigation that he may not, technically, be authorized to engage in).
Wouldn't a guy like that want to avoid all risk of meaningless "exposure", for instance, having the cops called in to break up / clean up after a bar fight, especially if he was essentially *certain* he would win?
LMAO!
In an actual fight, you could count the seconds it would take for Josh Helman to knock out Tommy Boy. Perhaps the most ridiculous fight scene ever. It's like buying into Sylvester Stallone actually kicking Steve Austin's butt. Helman drove the stolen Interceptor in Mad Max: Fury Road.
He knew something was up and wanted to see where it went.
shareI found it odd that Reacher would quickly act in such hostile fashion to both Sandy and then the thug boys, considering how adept he is at "disappearing" and "blending in", etc. (especially if he's running around behind the scenes of a murder investigation that he may not, technically, be authorized to engage in).
Wouldn't a guy like that want to avoid all risk of meaningless "exposure", for instance, having the cops called in to break up / clean up after a bar fight, especially if he was essentially *certain* he would win?
I always imagined Ray Stevenson as Reacher...
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If not Ray Stevenson then a younger Liam Neeson. Not that Ray is a spring chicken anymore..
Which would be perfectly plausible in a spontaneous bar fight with people who have little loyalty to each other. Which this wasn't.
shareIt was, actually. Jeb was a meth dealer, who gathered some of his junky buddies to beat up Reacher. Not much loyalty there.
Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.
First the crew thought they were dealing with an old second baseman (Jimmie Reese) and on average they were physically larger than Reacher while all were younger. They likely felt the leader would thrash Jack easily and if not it would be no problem for the rest of them. They were also following orders which likely dictated no weapons. In addition the the cops were in on it thus wrenches and bats could complicate the matter. Jack also said he was "being gentle" after the fight suggesting that even if the clowns had some tools they would still have lost. Imagine an angry Reacher going beserk after grabbing an assailant's baseball bat. http://imgur.com/itoHofq
"He killed sixteen Czechoslovakians. Guy was an interior decorator."
They weren't looking for Jimmy Reese, they were looking for Jack Reacher.
Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.
he disarms their aggressiveness by talking about how he's gonna do it... everybody is a little hesitant at that point. Often like that in packs... a few that really DONT wanna fight or are only there to add a few cowardly kicks once someone is down.
shareHey man, leave Stiffler alone! lol .... He can fight, he was a good scrapper in GOON .
shareI don't understand why people frequently ask other viewers why the director or author does/doesn't do or not explain certain things, eg "What do you think Jack Reacher did when he got home?".
"If Mad Max Fury Road is an 8 (I gave it a 1). Then I'll use 8 for OK, 9 is better, 10 is best."
Well, that's usually how fights go...
You'd feel cocky too if you were full of myself.