Well, to each his own. I mainly liked the idea about having amnesia because it provided a suitable justification for what was happening in the story and it was kind of interesting to see her rediscover she's a mutant. Although yeah, her lack of screen-time or character development did hurt her portrayal. And I do agree about Jennifer Hale as well.
It also provided another opportunity to make Cyclops look like a chump ;). Honestly, I just think that if they didn't want her to be back in the game so soon they could have found some other less soap operatic way to go about it.
As long as we can agree about Jennifer Hale.
Well, I wouldn't quite say that. It is made pretty clear she does love him in my mind (i.e. I doubt she would have attacked Emma so aggressively, if she hadn't kissed Cyclops). It's just, Cyclops seems a bit too... overprotective and single-minded about her (and the beginning of the series and the flashbacks in the later episodes, seemed to imply she'd gotten a little tired of that). Which is fine with me, as it's one thing about the show that does actually resemble genuine relationship problems that every couple goes through at some point.
Still, I wasn't really convinced that she loved or cared about him (I'm not sure saving him from being crushed by a bus or yelling "It'll - the Phoenix - kill you!" really counts, or even pinning Emma to the wall, though that may just be because that doesn't have the same level of violence to it as Cyclops blasting Wolverine in the back - twice). The writers seemed to enjoy going out of their way to make Cyclops look like an ineffectual jerk, but then again, there were a lot of things wrong with Cyclops in this series, seeing as how the writers mentality fell into the "Cyclops is ALWAYS inferior to Wolverine" category, which I guess just ties back into the list of things the series could have done better as a whole. Put it to you this way, going just by what was shown in this series, if Cyclops had died or disappeared under circumstances suggesting he had died (and died quite horribly), would Jean have been anywhere near the level of heartbroken that Cyclops was? I'm not so sure she would have been.
I know, I'm making my own thread go off topic. Shame on me. ;)
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justride
15 years ago
DarthBill, i completely agree with you. I sort of am glad that WATXM got cancelled mostly due to all the attention on Wolverine.
Both Evolution and TAS showed a consensual loving relationship between Cyclops and Jean. Especially in Evolution, that episode where Mystique gets revenge on Cyclops and takes away his glasses and Jean is the only one who knows he is in trouble and goes after Mystique herself. That really showed us how they love each other. And TAS put them off as a married couple already without actually being married.
This series purposely deteriorates Cyclops for Wolverine and that whole flashback episode with Cyclops and leading up to the explosion only showed us how much the writers despise Cyclops and how much Wolverine is better than him.
When he didnt fight him back and Jean was like "You want to know why he isnt fighting you? Because I told him to" implies that not only does Jean look down on him but also she feels like Wolverine can take on Cyclops and really kill him. How are we supposed to respect him after that? How are we, the audience, supposed to feel about the Scott-Jean dynamic after that whole ordeal? And Jean having flirty eyes with Wolverine also shows us how the writers are trying to set those two up. That should not have happened, Wolverine should have tried to pursue Jean into a relationship but she should have shrugged him off and said she belongs to Scott like they did in TAS.
Instead, Wolverine looking and flirting with Jean, her not turning him down and Cyclops being a jealous mother *beep* only shows us how the writers would have put tried to force those two on us in Season 2. Sorry, but if that would have happened it would completely demoralize the show and ruin it. And I agree, this Jean wasnt completely as useless and TAS' one but still, she is nothing compared to the Evolution Jean.
I'm sorry what do you think your doing?
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EMTedronai
15 years ago
And Jean having flirty eyes with Wolverine also shows us how the writers are trying to set those two up. That should not have happened, Wolverine should have tried to pursue Jean into a relationship but she should have shrugged him off and said she belongs to Scott like they did in TAS.
And this was really one of the big problems with this series, and X3 (Which is basically what this series was based on), for that matter, and which is also why I'm absolutely terrified that when they bring Jean back in the books, (and eventually, they WILL) they'll pair her up with Wolverine because Cyclops is with Frost (Who REALLY needs to go back to being a villian).
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espritxviii
15 years ago
For me, the best version of all the female x-men members in terms of looks, were TAS's version.
They were all soo darn hot in that one! And a special mention to Jean's "sex moans" ;)
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DarthBill
15 years ago
And I am in complete agreement with you Joshy, EMT. W&TXM needed to flesh Jean out more to get us to really care about her, her fate and whether or not she stays with Cyclops. They could have done other flashbacks showing Jean from the perspectives of other characters but alas they did not. They settled for making Jean a plot device & expected us to care about her as much as Cyclops does (although his caring for her came across as being sadly misguided) for no better reason than she was a main character in the comics for 40-some years.
And I find the idea of Jean & Wolverine as a couple most appalling. Sadly, that's probably what will happen when she eventually returns. I guess then Wolverine will finally have his chance to put up or shut up about whether or not he's really better for Jean than Cyclops.
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